733:: I note that the article describes Burrough as one of the earliest HIV+ authors in Australia to come out publicly about HIV status. That might make him notable in itself — the cultural history of the Early AIDS Crisis is a particularly under-served area on enwiki — so it would be useful if we (all) could spend a little time looking for relevant sources on that basis too. Having not yet done so, I'm not
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Burrough's own writing is not primary). The best is a capsule review in the Sydney morning Herald but that's not enough. Claim of "bestselling" is for local listing for a niche market only. Not a national open one. Worldcat shows a highest holdings of 8 libraries. Search of NewsBank and Trove came up with nothing better. Last afd
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As for the earlier AfD, a no-consensus close can be appropriately followed by another afd without much delay--it is good practice to wait at least a few weeks instead of doing it immediate in order to avoid another no-consensus close. I don't see that as a problem, especially because we do seem to be approaching consensus now.
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fall the way the proposer wanted feels like sour grapes and not the best use of editors' time, frankly. If there was no consensus to delete after trying to attract editors to the discussion last time, trying again until you get the desired roll of the dice doesn't feel like the kind of good faith we are meant to assume. —
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This is a very highly promotional biography, and could be deleted on that basis regardless of notability. It's advertising for the books, and advocacy for the individual's causes. See especially the Early life section) If he is considered notable, it's indeed a case forTNT, as suggested just above.
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I read just fine, and clicking on the link for the book that is in the article, then copying and pasting "Burrough" into the search box reports "no results". Searching in the book for other authors seems to work. If the link is broken, please provide an alternative here. Meanwhile, I recommend
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author. Lacks coverage about him in independent reliable sources. There is a lot of sources here but none that are independent reliable sources that give him any real depth of coverage. There is a lot of primary sources that verify the existence of works. (note that the author of this page claims
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Google Books usually allows you to search also in the parts that it won't show you in preview (but will show only snippet results). Or are you saying that their scan is cut off before the end of the book? Given how marginal any notability seems to be (and in light of
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