549:. I just want to point out to the closing admin that the two votes above contain not a shred of argument for keeping this particular article, they are just commenting on whether CBR is reliable or not. Even if it is reliable, this is irrelevant (and as I noted above, the CBR content cited is a pure plot summary anyway).--
424:. Anyway, the two sources cited are pretty bad - they are both just pure plot summaries. Inclusion in one of zillion CBR lists is really nothing special, since their lists are mostly meaningless repeats of plot summary organized as a type of clickbait, note they have usually no analysis or explanaiton of rankings. --
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after a buyout), but claiming that they are unreliable as a whole displays an obvious ignorance of the site. And to be frank, the only reason specific users started having a problem with CBR is because they got tired of them having articles about their nominations. That's really what all of this is
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or used to source that fictional material. The CBR source also seems to speak about the fictional universe, so regardless of its status as reliable I do not think it helps show notability. I searched Google News, Scholar, and Books, JSTOR, ProQuest databases, and
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Your use of terms like "zillions" and "clickbait" indicate to me that you are not being subjective in evaluating the source that you've formed a personal opinion about, but which the
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Clearly we need to make some sort of policy regarding using sources like CBR, Screenrant, and others of the like. Some users don't like them, others like myself don't have an issue with them (usually). But it's really just opinion on both sides at this point; we need to establish an official
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CBR puts out between twenty to fifty lists per day. It seems they were previously a better regulated site, but it has turned into a nonsense clickbait garabage dump. Nothing of what they put out should be included in an article.
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