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article could mention that this is the derived unit for density given its choice of base units, but that's a single sentence at most, and possibly not even worth saying on account of being an obvious deduction from the table there. Nothing is clarified by having a stand-alone article dedicated to a
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I fundamentally disagree that the notability of THIS unit hinges on the notability of UCUM. Composite units should stand or fall on their own notability, not just their inclusion in a system. At best, this should just be included in the article on UCUM itself, but even that strikes me as dubious.
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This article was created via the Articles for Creation process. The reviewer rejected the request with the comment "This is a mixed unit - we have grams/cubic centimeter in the CGS system and kilograms per cubic meter in the MKS system. This mixed unit is not needed." The creator of the article,
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after a long delay, has moved the article from Draft space to mainspace him/herself. This article arose from an attempt to create a series of articles on "UCUM units" that paralleled the SI units articles, without any evidence that such a system of units is actually in use by anyone.
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The Unified Code for Units of Measure (UCUMExternal Link Disclaimer) is the ISO 11240 compliant standard. FDA receives submissions, for example, that use the UCUM syntax standard for dosage strength in both content of product labeling and drug establishment registration and drug
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We absolutely should not have articles on mixed units merely to say they are a conceivable combination of units with certain conversion factors, this is absurd. The page's citation has kilogram per cubic meter and milligram per cubic meter in its table, not this. I would delete
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I question the assertion that grams per cubic metre is "the UCUM unit of density". If this were an article, I would ask for a reliable source for that statement.--
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is a good idea as there is no need for this content. If a redirect, could also have grams per cubic metre (and the more correct meter) as redirects.
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Add it to the pile of things to delete if this AfD passes: (If we make a complete list here, I'll file the next AfD on the whole pile.)
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unit to be encoded in a consistent way, to allow machine-to-machine transmission of data between systems that may use different units.
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A redirect would only be necessary if we though any of these were likely search terms. I'm not really sold on the necessity.
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is as well. We could debate whether that is sufficient for an article, but their claim is stonger than this article's.--
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I have no source. If the concept of derived UCUM units does not exist then I withdraw my provisional support for keep.
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is right there and perfectly suited to explaining any nonstandard units that might arise in specialized applications.
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units, in any common system, can be "derived" in UCUM. This article arose as part of an attempt by
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plus a one-sentence comment in each unit article, stating how that unit is represented in UCUM
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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per nom. Random units like this don't merit entries in lists, much less standalone articles.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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to create articles and templates for UCUM that parallel the articles and templates on
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If there's no such thing as derived unit in UCUM, then what are the implications for
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For me that confirms the notability of UCUM (and of the g/m^3 as the UCUM unit of
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does not, as far as I can find, define a system of "UCUM derived units", and
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Counterpoint: if this AfD passes and the article is deleted, we should delete
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does not mention grams per cubic metre as having any special significance
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The existence of Google hits is not a good reason to keep an article
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The notability of this article seems to hinge on the notability of
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This page is only about the unit, not about its reference to UCUM.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I don't see a reason for any of those articles to exist, when
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Notability (of UCUM) is provided by ISO 11240 and the FDA.
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as those looking for this term should get some result.
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