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1356:: "Avoid Neologisms", you might want to take several moments and review that guideline, anon75. From the very title of the guideline, the reason we are guided to avoid them is that they aren't really understood all that well; frankly, that seems directed to folk who have some trouble being able to use them. You shouldn't assume that simply because you do not seem to understand them doesn't mean some of us do not. As per the definition, the term is a neologism. I mean, you can keep comparing the term to car-porn or plane-porn, but you are only pointing out that you don't really understand the term, its meaning or its application as a neologism. - 2176:"opinion columns". Nor are they "blogs". The citations that speak directly to the term are from rock-solid reliable, verifiable and notable sources. There are additional references in - again - reliable, verifiable and notable sources. That there is a paucity of sources that speak to the invention of the term is the only reason why merging seems the avenue to pursue. Sorry, if it seems like I am snapping at you, Chiliad; I guess I'm still pissed at the banned anon who set he ball rolling with this bloggy opinion bs. - 1312:- Reliable sources, published in books and discussed by notable, linked folk - it seems a no-brainer to keep. The only reason why this article hasn't been expanded further is that it had been bogged down in discussion overlong. there are over a dozen sources linked in article discussion that could be utilized in the article, as well as a likely ton if usable other citations throughout the net and academic sourcing. 1918:. (Dontcha just LOVE a good cry?) Elvis, Diana, Michael Jackson. The masses getting off with recreational grieving, replete with candles, piles of flowers, and teddy bears piled by fences, with journalists criticizing the sob-fest, and people getting angry that their orgiastic grief is held up to ridicule. 2046:
to Mourning sickness, as per Edison, Hypocrite, etc. I creatd the article, and was unaware of similar phenomena. Were there nothing else like it, I would be hard pressed to find a good enough reason to delete - actually, I still don't, despite Neil's comments. However, similar behavior does exist, it
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about "disaster porn". I'm not an AFD regular, nor am I an article writer, so I'll leave the decision on whether to delete or expand or rename or merge somewhere to others. But I sort of suspect there's an article lurking around in there somewhere, even if the current one isn't it. Meh, maybe this is
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Every source cited in the article is labeled as an opinion column or a blog. I don't understand what your argument for them not being opinion columns or blogs is... they're clearly labeled as such. As for other sources mentioned but not cited... 1 is a work of fiction (Ten Little Indians), 2 are
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we need an article on a term sort of used 3 times in opinion columns just about as much as we need an article on a PTA mom mentioned in a couple of human interest columns. As in, not at all. Knowledge (XXG) is not journalism... we really need much better sourcing than this to justify an article.
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coverage indicating why this should be considered notable enough to be an article. There's nothing like that here. We've got one garbage source making a garbage claim and then some passing mentions of the term here and there. The typical sources for confirming the notable existence of a word or
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Media portrayals of tragedy, you say? Still has a touch of the undergraduate, cultural studies whatsinames about it, but if changing my !vote to keep will minimise the rustling of taffeta then it's all for the best I suppose. These things should be more thoughtfully named in future. Grief pr0nz
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That's a ridiculous example. I think everyone would agree that there's a large difference between the type of source that is appropriate to back up a scientific claim and the type appropriate to discuss a cultural and media phenomenon. If a glen beck article was used to describe the politics
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of AfD? We should be here discussing weather this article can be saved or not, right? So doesn't the possibility of being able to save the article go straight to the heart of that argument? We shouldn't be here to delete unworthy stuff, we should be here to delete non-notable stuff.
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I think if you look carefully you'd see that the user struck through their own comment. And no, this discussion has moved a bit to asserting that the subject should focus on media portrayals and not solely on this one term. Certainly that would be relevant to this article.
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Thanks for implying that I can't read Benji.....except I can. I know full well where the discussion has gone. I rendered my opinion. I really don't care if you like it or not. It may surprise you to know that you aren't in charge of directing the AfD discussion.
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All we need to concern ourselves with is if the subject satisfies the notability and verifiability guidelines. Both are satisfied by multiple reliable, third-party references, so the article should be kept, or at most merged to Mourning sickness per above.
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these are simply commonly meshed near-portmanteaus no different than calling every scandal a "gate" like Water-gate or such. One takes whatever has captured the attention at any moment and attaches "porn" to it. "Car Porn" has thousands of potential
2094:- this kind of bogus emotional wankery has been well documented and it is no wonder that some terms for it have been coined by various commentators. Mourning sickness seems to be winning. If a better candidate emerges it can be redirected there. 774:". Fact is, it apparently has no common or consistent def and has been only mentioned on a handful of occasions. It probably means whatever the speaker says at any one time, this conflicting definition in the lead was brought up in discussion. 1325:
As Wiktionary's inclusion criteria differ from Knowledge (XXG)'s, that project may cover neologisms that Knowledge (XXG) cannot accept. If you are interested in writing an article on a neologism, you may wish to contribute it to that project
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If you wish to userfy the article, and work on making it into "something else" at your leisure, please feel free to do so. However, a vague hunch that this might form part of a notable topic in the future is not a valid reason to keep the
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Where did I say they were unreliable sources? You appear to be replying to an argument I didn't make. My problem is with using opinion pieces as the citation for objective claims, not about whether they're "reliable" sources or not.
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reviews of that work - all just mention the term but don't explain it in any sort of depth. Then there's yet another casual mention by "Hippo Flicks", whatever that is. Casual mentions do not constitute non-trivial coverage. --
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past notability guidelines. Studies and books are regualrly produced on media issues involving death and tragedies. This is a no-brainer, find a NPOV title, move the article and restructure it accordingly mentioning
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gives an allowance to blogs that are on "the website of a major news organization" and "Op-ed columns that are published in mainstream newspapers". Your attack on the reliability of those sources is unfounded. --
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to Mourning sickness. It's a media buzzword but certainly not a neologism that was invented here. Still kind of a stub article but makes a great candidate for merging with the very similar "mourning sickness".
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have articles on Knowledge (XXG). As do many words. There is certainly a good article possible here - tying directly to the history of media, technology and journalism. It took me less than a minute to find
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Not exactly, we have seven days to sort out if this article is encyclopedic in total or some usable parts. There seems little consensus to outright delete it and I now concur that merging it with
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and how to deal with it will be up to the creator and editors of that article, not some unrelated consensus on an AfD page for a long-dead article. Our issue here is whether or not to delete
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You haven't bothered to do a google search for the phrase, have you? If you had you would have found the same 633,000 hits I did. You would have found actual news articles using the term:
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I'm sorry if you felt I implied anything and no, this is a discussion with no one "in charge" including myself, of course. Your rendered opinion is certainly yours to have and hold.
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is not a useful argument. Which of those sources discuss the subject as their topic? Those books for example, how do they contribute to the article past providing examples of usage?
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To try and put forward that there is not sufficient coverage is misinformed at best. To adhere to the outlook that this term hasn't made it to the mainstream yet is short-sighted.
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My opinion on news media coverage of tragedies has nothing to do with why I want this article deleted... and I don't think anyone here wants this deleted for those reasons. --
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would be a great article to have, but the creation of that article is totally irrelevant to this article's AfD. Benjiboi, don't say that "the discussion has moved away from"
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per Neil Clancy - he makes just about every argument I could think of for removing this, and probably clearer than I would have. I wouldn't be opposed to a merge, though.
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to Teh Crafty's post? If so, don't you find that a little arrogant? Deciding that someone else's post is irrelevant? Anyway, I believe we should delete the article called
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Yeah, your place was to address that elsewhere, anon75. On a side note, is there some reason you are making your text smaller? Your use of it is somewhat distracting. -
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is more like sharing in someone else's misfortune in an excessive, inappropriate, and generally creepy way, like feeling a compelling need to be the one to keep the
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Er, i think you've been misled, 10Pound. There are quite a few sources, none of them unreliable or unverifiable. I am not speaking about the book references. -
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but rename. It's an obvious phenomenon with sufficient coverage to create an article. And if it's not, we'll AfD it again. It's not like we have a deadline.
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and actually decides on a new name and topic, this discussion on things the article might be called in the future will remain entirely hypothetical.
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itself is quite notable so several routes to improving this article exist with the most likely path involving a name change - ala "a neologism
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is a neologism so by definition many will never have heard it. However the subject of media portrayals of tragedy is certainly notable.
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into that article is the best course of action. I don't know how exactly that will be done, I would recommend placing a redirect at
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phrase are all conspicuously silent on this term, which is more than enough evidence that it hasn't made it to the mainstream yet.
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Lots of phrases have been used in newspapers and published in books, but since Wiki is not a dictionary, we don't want articles on
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would serve this article and our readers best. This section can grow there and if needed can be rebirthed at a later date.
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is happiness at someone else's misfortune; like seeing an edit warrior and tendentious editor's article up at AFD.
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was coined in the 2000s to describe _____" - which would also not call for deleting but improving. Where to start?
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Sorry, that's a red herring. the Internet Archive could be used to cite the original address if we felt the need.
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Were you planning on striking that, anon? It's been pointed out that it was simply moved to archives, not removed
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has archived the blog entry, if you feel otherwise please support your post with a reference showing otherwise.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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So when he claims that global warming is a liberal conspiracy, it would be okay to use that as the basis for
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of becoming an encylopedic article, due simply to its nature. If someone is willing to create the article
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article up to date minute by minute on all the latest rumors you've heard online. Like the redirect from
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the broader topic if you expand your search to include these terms as well; Slate, for example has one:
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LOL - Xeno found it and put it back in the article.Please be more careful in the future, anon75... -
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Now, if I could only convince someone (not volunteering, I mean someone competent) to write it... --
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of thing, it's not a phrase I've ever encountered anywhere but here. I think the article should be
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I may be out of line here Tim but isn't determining the possibility of improving an article the
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with Mourning sickness, per Atama. GP could be included in mourning sickness with a redirect.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Please do not change your vote just to try to make someone happy. You need an actual reason
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FNORD. No, you're probably right, but I don't want to see the information vanish from WP.
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which was cited in support of a major edit to the "grief porn" article from its website.
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in the title. I'm sure tweking the search terms will pull many more possible sources.
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seems related to the term "disaster pornography" and probably several similar terms.
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So I'm voting to delete again? This is all getting very confuzzling. Sod it.
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Used in the New York Times and other notable sources. Published in books.
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Not out of line in the slightest, but unless Benjiboi changes his vote to
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I sort of suspect there's an article lurking around in there somewhere.
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Padilah - there are about 630,000 Google results for the search term
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find a reference to support your claim that the Observer blog - "
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surrounding global warming, it would be entirely appropriate.
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You may wish to re-check your claim. It appears that the
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So Benjiboi, do you now wish to merge and redirect the
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Note: The Observer has entirely removed the blog entry
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I suspect you could find sources that 463:several thousand Google scholar hits but 218:: This debate has been included in the 192:: This debate has been included in the 166:: This debate has been included in the 2026:per nom and Neil Clancy. 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