1356:: "Avoid Neologisms", you might want to take several moments and review that guideline, anon75. From the very title of the guideline, the reason we are guided to avoid them is that they aren't really understood all that well; frankly, that seems directed to folk who have some trouble being able to use them. You shouldn't assume that simply because you do not seem to understand them doesn't mean some of us do not. As per the definition, the term is a neologism. I mean, you can keep comparing the term to car-porn or plane-porn, but you are only pointing out that you don't really understand the term, its meaning or its application as a neologism. -
2176:"opinion columns". Nor are they "blogs". The citations that speak directly to the term are from rock-solid reliable, verifiable and notable sources. There are additional references in - again - reliable, verifiable and notable sources. That there is a paucity of sources that speak to the invention of the term is the only reason why merging seems the avenue to pursue. Sorry, if it seems like I am snapping at you, Chiliad; I guess I'm still pissed at the banned anon who set he ball rolling with this bloggy opinion bs. -
1312:- Reliable sources, published in books and discussed by notable, linked folk - it seems a no-brainer to keep. The only reason why this article hasn't been expanded further is that it had been bogged down in discussion overlong. there are over a dozen sources linked in article discussion that could be utilized in the article, as well as a likely ton if usable other citations throughout the net and academic sourcing.
1918:. (Dontcha just LOVE a good cry?) Elvis, Diana, Michael Jackson. The masses getting off with recreational grieving, replete with candles, piles of flowers, and teddy bears piled by fences, with journalists criticizing the sob-fest, and people getting angry that their orgiastic grief is held up to ridicule.
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Mourning sickness, as per Edison, Hypocrite, etc. I creatd the article, and was unaware of similar phenomena. Were there nothing else like it, I would be hard pressed to find a good enough reason to delete - actually, I still don't, despite Neil's comments. However, similar behavior does exist, it
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we need an article on a term sort of used 3 times in opinion columns just about as much as we need an article on a PTA mom mentioned in a couple of human interest columns. As in, not at all. Knowledge (XXG) is not journalism... we really need much better sourcing than this to justify an article.
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coverage indicating why this should be considered notable enough to be an article. There's nothing like that here. We've got one garbage source making a garbage claim and then some passing mentions of the term here and there. The typical sources for confirming the notable existence of a word or
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Media portrayals of tragedy, you say? Still has a touch of the undergraduate, cultural studies whatsinames about it, but if changing my !vote to keep will minimise the rustling of taffeta then it's all for the best I suppose. These things should be more thoughtfully named in future. Grief pr0nz
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of AfD? We should be here discussing weather this article can be saved or not, right? So doesn't the possibility of being able to save the article go straight to the heart of that argument? We shouldn't be here to delete unworthy stuff, we should be here to delete non-notable stuff.
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Thanks for implying that I can't read Benji.....except I can. I know full well where the discussion has gone. I rendered my opinion. I really don't care if you like it or not. It may surprise you to know that you aren't in charge of directing the AfD discussion.
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2094:- this kind of bogus emotional wankery has been well documented and it is no wonder that some terms for it have been coined by various commentators. Mourning sickness seems to be winning. If a better candidate emerges it can be redirected there.
774:". Fact is, it apparently has no common or consistent def and has been only mentioned on a handful of occasions. It probably means whatever the speaker says at any one time, this conflicting definition in the lead was brought up in discussion.
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Where did I say they were unreliable sources? You appear to be replying to an argument I didn't make. My problem is with using opinion pieces as the citation for objective claims, not about whether they're "reliable" sources or not.
922:- what is being stated above is that the subject is certainly notable enough so an article on the subject which includes mention of this term would likely make more sense. What that article should be called is yet to be determined.
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reviews of that work - all just mention the term but don't explain it in any sort of depth. Then there's yet another casual mention by "Hippo Flicks", whatever that is. Casual mentions do not constitute non-trivial coverage. --
2222:- This is something of a moot point, since the consensus seems to be in favor of merging the article, which is probably a good compromise. However, in defense of the sources in the current article, the "blogs" are attached to
248:, neologism, no evidence of any mainstream usage. Even if such evidence were forthcoming, the article at present is a dicdef, not encyclopedic in tone, and would require broader coverage to be suitable for Knowledge (XXG).
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past notability guidelines. Studies and books are regualrly produced on media issues involving death and tragedies. This is a no-brainer, find a NPOV title, move the article and restructure it accordingly mentioning
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1380:? Please note that I don't mean sources defining the phrase, giving its origin or providing examples of its usage, all of which might form parts of a dictionary entry, but not an encyclopaedia article.
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and how to deal with it will be up to the creator and editors of that article, not some unrelated consensus on an AfD page for a long-dead article. Our issue here is whether or not to delete
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You haven't bothered to do a google search for the phrase, have you? If you had you would have found the same 633,000 hits I did. You would have found actual news articles using the term:
386:. What we have is currently poorly written and under-cited. The neologism itself is new but the subject is certainly notable with hundreds of books focussing on how media focus on death.
2265:'s opinion on global warming has been expressed in reliable sources, but that doesn't mean we use his claims as the basis for supposedly objective claims in global warming articles. --
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to Teh Crafty's post? If so, don't you find that a little arrogant? Deciding that someone else's post is irrelevant? Anyway, I believe we should delete the article called
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900:- Some sources show the word being used, but none demonstrate nontrivial coverage of it, and there's nothing to show that there's any notable usage of the word.
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