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167:) is in the former category. This appears to be in the latter. I saw it when I was doing Proposed Deletion patrol a couple of days ago. I couldn't find any way to fix it, or any sources discussing any such thing (including all of the alternative names that have been created as redirects). It's 241:
I never heard of it, and it seems a little silly to me -- the article gives no hint exactly when you would need to distinguish these from "ungrounded" relations. Also I'm not inclined to lean over backwards to give JA articles the benefit of the doubt.
352:(non-empty) sets. He created this fork in January 2006, at a time when he was edit warring with Randall Holmes. Since Knowledge is not a dictionary I see no use for this article. Even for a redirect it's probably not sufficiently notable. -- 117: 164: 344:
According to both the current version and the last Jon Awbrey version, a "grounded relation" is for all intents and purposes exactly the same thing as a
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articles that are valid subjects, but simply exceedingly confused and in need of fixing. There are others which are about subjects that don't exist.
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Seems like a piece of original research by an editor long gone. No traces in google or google books for the described meaning of the term. `'
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mentions the notion of "grounded relation" in an outline, then never says anything more about it, in particular what it means.
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meaning and, while I have no opinion on whether that deserves a WP article, it shouldn't be speedied under G4. --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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One thing I wonder about is whether the "sequence" of sets involved is supposed to be indexed by
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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ordinals. And what is the relationship between "grounded" relations as defined here, and
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I'm not interested in paying 32 bucks for, but the Google Scholar blurb contains
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does not hold." This is not the definition or terminology of the author of the
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So this not particularly related to the subject of the article, apparently.
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there are a couple of Google Scholar hits that might be followed up --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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if and only if it is logically impossible for there to exist a
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in the sense that someone might someday want to write up the
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with the same qualities (quality = substance or property) as
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Rxy is a grounded relation if and only if it is logically
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article, but a quotation from: Johansson, I.: 1989,
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Neıl

11:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Grounded relation
Grounded relation
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Míkka
>t
22:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Goochelaar
talk
00:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Jon Awbrey
Pragmatic maxim
AfD discussion
unverifiable
Uncle G
talk
02:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

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