167:) is in the former category. This appears to be in the latter. I saw it when I was doing Proposed Deletion patrol a couple of days ago. I couldn't find any way to fix it, or any sources discussing any such thing (including all of the alternative names that have been created as redirects). It's
241:
I never heard of it, and it seems a little silly to me -- the article gives no hint exactly when you would need to distinguish these from "ungrounded" relations. Also I'm not inclined to lean over backwards to give JA articles the benefit of the doubt.
352:(non-empty) sets. He created this fork in January 2006, at a time when he was edit warring with Randall Holmes. Since Knowledge is not a dictionary I see no use for this article. Even for a redirect it's probably not sufficiently notable. --
117:
164:
344:
According to both the current version and the last Jon Awbrey version, a "grounded relation" is for all intents and purposes exactly the same thing as a
159:
articles that are valid subjects, but simply exceedingly confused and in need of fixing. There are others which are about subjects that don't exist.
124:
Seems like a piece of original research by an editor long gone. No traces in google or google books for the described meaning of the term. `'
90:
85:
94:
258:, so the article apparently does say what a grounded relation is, even if we don't know what it says about it. If anyone has access to
429:
406:
77:
250:
mentions the notion of "grounded relation" in an outline, then never says anything more about it, in particular what it means.
17:
470:
446:
meaning and, while I have no opinion on whether that deserves a WP article, it shouldn't be speedied under G4. --
36:
469:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
455:
434:
411:
382:
361:
330:
316:
271:
233:
200:
180:
150:
132:
59:
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
229:
168:
81:
425:
402:
345:
217:
73:
65:
378:
374:
357:
353:
326:
146:
451:
267:
225:
208:
One thing I wonder about is whether the "sequence" of sets involved is supposed to be indexed by
128:
48:, without prejudice to a creation of a ontological investigations article under the same name.
420:
397:
313:
197:
176:
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
322:
216:
ordinals. And what is the relationship between "grounded" relations as defined here, and
160:
156:
142:
447:
263:
221:
54:
125:
172:
111:
254:
I'm not interested in paying 32 bucks for, but the Google
Scholar blurb contains
247:
304:
does not hold." This is not the definition or terminology of the author of the
251:
220:, as that concept is usually defined? We probably should seek the opinion of
321:
So this not particularly related to the subject of the article, apparently.
49:
141:- For what's worth I never heard about it, nor can find about it anywhere.
246:
there are a couple of Google
Scholar hits that might be followed up --
463:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
284:
if and only if it is logically impossible for there to exist a
188:. Non-notable concept, and in this meaning a neologism. (I had
442:
in the sense that someone might someday want to write up the
292:
with the same qualities (quality = substance or property) as
256:
Rxy is a grounded relation if and only if it is logically
193:
189:
107:
103:
99:
308:
article, but a quotation from: Johansson, I.: 1989,
39:). No further edits should be made to this page.
473:). No further edits should be made to this page.
196:by an admin because of the Awbrey campaign.) --
300:, respectively, but between which the relation
8:
7:
24:
262:it might be worth looking up. --
224:; he's our expert in this area.
192:this article, but deletion was
18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion
1:
456:19:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
435:00:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
412:21:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
383:20:29, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
362:12:11, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
331:21:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
317:18:30, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
272:07:58, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
234:06:09, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
201:05:36, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
181:02:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
151:00:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
133:22:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
60:11:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
490:
444:Ontological Investigations
310:Ontological Investigations
466:Please do not modify it.
440:Delete without prejudice
417:Delete without prejudice
371:Delete without prejudice
312:, London: Routledge. --
32:Please do not modify it.
373:per Trovatore below. --
276:The full sentence is: "
419:per Trovatore, below.
346:relation (mathematics)
218:well-founded relations
433:
410:
282:grounded relation
74:Grounded relation
66:Grounded relation
481:
468:
423:
400:
212:ordinals, or by
115:
97:
34:
489:
488:
484:
483:
482:
480:
479:
478:
477:
471:deletion review
464:
161:Pragmatic maxim
155:There are some
88:
72:
69:
44:The result was
37:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
487:
485:
476:
475:
459:
458:
437:
414:
388:
387:
386:
385:
365:
364:
337:
336:
335:
334:
333:
236:
222:user:Trovatore
203:
183:
165:AfD discussion
153:
122:
121:
68:
63:
42:
41:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
486:
474:
472:
467:
461:
460:
457:
453:
449:
445:
441:
438:
436:
431:
427:
422:
418:
415:
413:
408:
404:
399:
396:presumed OR.
395:
394:
390:
389:
384:
380:
376:
372:
369:
368:
367:
366:
363:
359:
355:
351:
347:
343:
342:
338:
332:
328:
324:
320:
319:
318:
315:
311:
307:
303:
299:
295:
291:
287:
283:
279:
275:
274:
273:
269:
265:
261:
257:
253:
249:
245:
240:
237:
235:
231:
227:
226:Michael Hardy
223:
219:
215:
211:
207:
204:
202:
199:
195:
191:
187:
184:
182:
178:
174:
170:
166:
162:
158:
154:
152:
148:
144:
140:
137:
136:
135:
134:
131:
127:
119:
113:
109:
105:
101:
96:
92:
87:
83:
79:
75:
71:
70:
67:
64:
62:
61:
58:
57:
53:
52:
47:
40:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
465:
462:
443:
439:
421:CRGreathouse
416:
398:CRGreathouse
392:
391:
370:
349:
340:
339:
309:
305:
301:
297:
293:
289:
285:
281:
277:
259:
255:
248:this article
243:
238:
213:
209:
205:
185:
169:unverifiable
138:
123:
55:
50:
45:
43:
31:
28:
375:Hans Adler
354:Hans Adler
323:Goochelaar
306:Axiomathes
260:Axiomathes
157:Jon Awbrey
143:Goochelaar
448:Trovatore
264:Trovatore
348:between
252:This one
118:View log
314:Lambiam
239:comment
206:Comment
198:Lambiam
190:prodded
173:Uncle G
91:protect
86:history
393:Delete
341:Delete
288:and a
210:finite
194:denied
186:Delete
139:Delete
95:delete
46:delete
280:is a
129:: -->
126:Míkka
112:views
104:watch
100:links
16:<
452:talk
379:talk
358:talk
327:talk
296:and
268:talk
230:talk
177:talk
147:talk
108:logs
82:talk
78:edit
51:Neıl
278:Rxy
244:But
214:all
116:– (
454:)
428:|
405:|
381:)
360:)
329:)
270:)
232:)
179:)
171:.
149:)
110:|
106:|
102:|
98:|
93:|
89:|
84:|
80:|
450:(
432:)
430:c
426:t
424:(
409:)
407:c
403:t
401:(
377:(
356:(
350:n
325:(
302:R
298:y
294:x
290:w
286:z
266:(
228:(
175:(
163:(
145:(
130:t
120:)
114:)
76:(
56:☎
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.