799:- This is a case where I think a pass/fail reading of the GNG tends to obscure the wood for the trees. Yes, the news venues the sources appear are ones that we will have reason to use. No, the content of those sources does not help us write a Knowledge article worth having. I think it is churnalism, but quite right, no one here is privy to how these sausages got made so this hasn't been proven. But the whole article as it stands rings big verifiability alarm bells for me. We do not even have an article on the organisation behind the award: how do we know the whole enterprise is not a PR exercise? Until we have a different kind of well-sourced content, I think we are better off without this article. —
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morning of the Grammy Awards. In 10 years, it has moved up to this venerable theater." but this falls well short of what is generally regarded as significant coverage on AfD. The second contains significant coverage, and the quote "This award means the world to me because it’s recognition from the people who know all the behind-the-scenes details of what a music supervisor does" is suggestive that the award is held in regard, but given that this is said by a recipient I rather discount it. It helps answer none of the specific example questions I asked in my delete rationale. I'm softening, but I'm still in the delete camp. —
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who can blame these hardworking but vastly underpaid professionals for tooting their own horns since the Motion
Picture Academy refuses to validate their work with an Oscar category? Coincidentally, the winners also helped to shine a light on critically acclaimed films featuring black casts (“Queen & Slim,” “Waves,” “The Last Black Man in San Francisco”) that were snubbed by the Academy, much like music supervisors themselves.
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This is progress, but it falls short of what I want. Yes, this does not look like copy-paste reporting. The first link does contain relevant material about the award, namely the 3 sentences "The Guild of Music
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and should not be treated differently than the underlying press release." The presence of a byline does not automatically grant immunity to charges of churnalism. The main deletion rationale is lack of notability. Merely reporting on nominees and winners establishes that it exists but confers no
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