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extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.". The article meets that standard of notability and in addition, the sources cites are both reliable and independent so as far as I can see, all three elements of the test have been passed.
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states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." and that: ""Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to
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in GNG that states that leaders of "legacy" political parties are treated differently than leaders of "emerging" political parties when it comes to notability — either way, the question of whether the leader qualifies to have a standalone biographical article, separately from having their name
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Conversely, Darryl's point, otherstuffdoesntexist - the fact that Hunter's bio was deleted doesn't in and of itself justify deleting another article. The point remains that the Liberal Party of Saskatchewan, unlike the Greens, is s legacy party that was in government relatively recently (as a
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Unlike the Greens, the Liberals were once the ruling party of Saskatchewan and were more recently part of a governing coalition. That makes them a legacy party, IMHO, unlike the Greens who have never won a seat, and therefore Liberal Party leaders are notable, while SK Green leaders are not.
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One party has been in decline since the 1990s and the other is in an uptick across the country. The Sask Liberals have received a smaller and smaller share of the vote in every election since the 90s. They were wiped out in 2003 and have not held a seat since (17 years).
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Thanks, but the sources in the article establish notability beyond the threshold established by the policy, as written, and that is what is required. I cannot see evidence of the added strictures you are imposing in the actual policy, as it is written.
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As I've often pointed out in AFD discussions, if the existence of two sources were enough all by itself to hand people a GNG-based exemption from having to be notable for any specific reason that would pass any of Knowledge's
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What are you talking about? How were they RECENTLY part of a coalition government when they haven't had a seat in the legislature for 17 years? Your idea of what constitutes "recently" seems to be quite different from
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inclusion criteria, then we would have to keep an article about my mother's neighbour who once got into the papers for finding a pig in her front yard — which is exactly why notability doesn't work that way, and
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of their leadership, and does not get an automatic inclusion freebie just because it's possible to nominally verify that they exist(ed) as a leader of a political party with no representation in the legislature
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work exactly the way I said it does: it tests the footnotes for factors like their depth, their geographic range and the context in which they're covering the person, not just for whether n: -->
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mentioned in the party's article, lives or dies on the quality and depth of their sourcing, not on the question of whether the party is a "legacy" one or an "emerging" one. GNG measures the
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minority coalition partner) and had previously been in government as a majority. As for GNG - they pass it because they are the leader of a legacy party, therefore they are notable.
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As I said, the difference is he was the leader of a legacy party and she is not. A better comparison would be with former BC Conservative leader
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2 or not, and not all possible sources are equal contributors toward the actual notability test. We require coverage which establishes the
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The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong!
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That "significant" political party has not had a seat in the Saskatchewan legislature since 2003. It received 3.59% of the vote in
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simply a matter of counting the footnotes and keeping anything that happens to surpass two, but also tests sources for their
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As I responded in the other place where you made basically the exact same comment, GNG is a measure of an article's
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If you believe Naomi Hunter is notable than create a new article on her with sufficient sources or go to
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of his leadership (which is not the same thing as the mere fact of it per se) and spanning the years
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GNG is not just automatically met by every article that happens to have sources in it — it is
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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of his leadership, not just the fact of it, and this article isn't doing what's needed.
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should be deleted regardless of the status of the party of which they are leaders.--
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who has an article. If he merits an article so do Lamoureux and Anwar.
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is not notable, why would Lamoureux be? Lamoureux does not meet
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showing Lamoureux has received significant coverage to warrant
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and received no seats (under Lamoureux's leadership). If the
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nothing beyond routine coverage, no actual show of notability.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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of his leadership, not just the technical fact of it per se.
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is the current leader who will be taking the party into
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regional party leader that has not won elected office.
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and the context of what they're covering the person
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