596:, I am also nominating the following related pages because the rationale for "transwiki-ing" this article appears to apply exactly to the content of the below (lists of different people's definitions for a word). Since Multiafd suggests "debates should be bundled only at the start or near the start of the debate, before most of the discussion", I leave it to other editors to decide whether we are near enough to the start here. To my mind if we choose to transwiki all these type of articles, we should try to ensure we have had as wide a discussion as possible:
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