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514:- There have been a few bad arguments here I'd like to address. Most come from WP:NOT. Knowledge is not a crystal ball, but that doesn't mean that diablo 3 has not had discussion or cultural relevance. Being a crystal ball would be to assert it exists, or that to speculate on content. Much like windows "longhorn" was never a released product, it was still a valid target for documented information. There's at least one solid reference on the page. That meets 768:" which means nothing really. Besides, bringing up Windows Vista is flawed seeing as it was announced in the form of a press release ages ago, even before the name Vista was given to it. There is a difference between unsubstantiated rumors and facts from the company making the announcement. Blizzard have said nothing in the form of fact yet. Thus the article is suffering the crystal ball syndrome. 173:, for example saying that because World of Diablo is trademarked, it hints at Diablo 3. It could also be solely to stop someone else from attempting to use the title, and have nothing to do with a new Diablo game. After all, GTA has trademarked GTA:Tokyo, GTA: Borneo and a few others, but that in no way means that there are actual plans to make those games. 261:
the various fan message boards. Knowledge is not for reporting rumours and drawing conclusions. It's for reporting FACTS and Diablo 3 is NOT a fact, no matter how much fans expect it to happen. If Blizzard turned round tomorrow and said 'We are making Diablo 3' that would be a different matter. But they won't.
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How is this any different from saying there's bound to be a Half-Life 3 because it stands to reason? It's not. It's fan speculation based on tenuous rumours and unconfirmed statements. If it transpired to be a massive hoax, then it would be article worthy. As it stands, leave your speculation for
411:- I just remembered an extremely similar article that got deleted for the same reason i.e. Crystal Balling. Starcraft 2. Same company, same unconfirmed sequel to a game, same attempt to build an article out of fan expectations, unsubstantiated rumours and not a single fact to go on. 233:
to eventually make one. There's a very serious fanbase behind Diablo 2, and I don't think Blizzard will abandon them indefinitely-- there's too much money involved. The article as it is is poorly written, and should be shortened to a stub in order to remove the speculation (since
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620:. Judging from the Blizzplanet interview, Diablo 3 will exist one day. However today is not that day. If there was any official indication (like Microsoft vaguely confirming Fable 2 at E3 2005) then yes this could stay. Until then, delete it. 64:
There has been no indication as to the existence of Diablo 3, this article even stats so itself. All in all it's just rumors on rumors. Until Blizzard announces the game, I don't see any reason that this article should be here. It also breaks
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article. For all I care, it's only rumors - it has been announced, delayed, postponed, announced again. I haven't seen the box, have you? Of course, there will be inaccuracies at this point but the disclaimer at the top addresses
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to that section. Aside: something I noticed while looking at those search results (the ones with content/relevant rumors)... most of them are very recent. Interesting. Regardless of the fate of this
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I was looking at the trademark app for "World of Diablo" (you have to search for it, their website won't let you direct-link like the rest of the internet) and it lists "
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What encyclopedic value is there in keeping Diablo 3 in its own article? What little information that would be left after your suggestion can just as easily be added to
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when replying. I just wanted to throw my two cents in, and it feels like everyone's jumping on my ass because of it. β€”
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yet. Once D3 becomes a confirmed reality, I am sure the world we be more than happy to receive this wiki article.
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place him in the position to guarantee a future game. The article also cites the fact that "World of Diablo" is
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Then please give me any sort of proof other then a sentence made by Knaak where he said "
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But only a sensible bit, to the main Blizzard article, or the one on the Diablo series.
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Sorry folks, this kind of article just isn't going to cut it. We don't make things that
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This does not belong at all until there is confirmation, then there is a space for it
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until more reliable sources come along, or redirect to a main Diablo article.
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I am not writing for a dead world... but a world with dead. 'nuff said!
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until we have more available information that "it may exist one day".
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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and merge any verifiable content into a parapgraph or so in
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Index

Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Can't sleep, clown will eat me
01:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Diablo 3
WP:NOT
Havok
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12:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
list of CVG deletions
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12:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
The Kinslayer
12:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge is not
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12:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
original research
The Kinslayer
13:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
WP:OR
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