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636:- If there's the least danger that a Knowledge article might be a neologism, we need to identify a number of reliable sources that each clearly use the term the same way that the article lead does; the best practice is to use footnotes giving quotes from our sources allowing the reader to easily check the usage. This is clearly not possible for the article as it stands, since it misidentifies what is understood by the 298:. The first sentence "The Environmental Revolution or Green Revolution is the ongoing process of switching from pollution-causing and climate-changing technology to efficient and clean technology" points to the fact that it is current and it is important. There is much evidence that unless we do make this shift, human life will become seriously bad or cease to exist. Note, I do not vote for Green Parties! -- 663:. The fact that the phrase "environmental revolution" has been used a bunch of times doesn't seem relevant to me, if there's no meaningful distinction between a "revolution" and a "movement" oriented toward the same goal and composed of the same people. It seems like an artifact of phrasing. To give a concrete example of what I mean here, it would be easy to find sources that mentioned " 429:
Looking at these works, all I am seeing is a turn of phrase being used by a handful of scholars for rhetorical effect on distinct and different works and spaces-- one refers to the window of time around Rachel Carson, one is focused on climate action, one is a series of speeches not commented on by
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that there is some broad and consistent consensus about the meaning of these two words put together is original research. The idea that this is some form of recognised anthropological milestone (akin to the Industrial Revolution or the Digital Revolution, as the article claims) is not supported by
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Not sure what to do with this Neologism -- its not really notable, as far as I can tell -- its not a current thing. It feels like it probably should be redirected somewhere, or nuked, or turned into a DAB page pointing at the different systems or ideas that could be indicitive of an environmental
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is certainly not part of the environmental movement or the emergence of ecological thinking. Its a neoliberal capitalist system that exported a bunch of highly flawed agricultural practices to other parts of the world, wrecking havoc on ecoystems. The main value of the green revolution for most
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that are being applied to things. I edit in environmental topics almost exclusively, and I don't recognize the concept at all -- that is why I am suggesting that maybe we want to turn this into a redirect or a DAB page -- its a reasonable search term, but not a singular notable concept,
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looks like it would be a good argument for the inclusion of the term, and then its never defined -- and the authors point to a bunch of other works that look at other well defined revolutions but never points to a work about the environmental revolution. Or for example,
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contexts was a more steady flow of grains in diets, while pushing a lot of farmers off their land, decreasing the quality of farmed food and creating a dependence on fossil fuels for additives such as pesticides and fertilizers-- you should read:
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by implying that a "proponent" and a "supporter" are two meaningfully separate things; in this case, it's not clear to me that people consider the "environmental revolution" to be something distinct from the "environmental movement".
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points at a Mexican version of such an environmental revolution, but its only documenting the dramatic rise of an environmental movement in Mexico in regulatory environments. I think the term originates in the Max
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Adding to the above, I think at the miniumum, an article discussing the use of the term would be helpful for the user - but either way, its a term that has been used, with plenty of sources.
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anyone else in any serious way -- and most of them are pointing at different points in the history of the development of the environmental movement. It feels like a redirect to
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The cites are all quite old so perhaps this is a term which was coined but never really caught on? I might change my mind if more recent cites were added. By the way
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https://books.google.com.uy/books?id=2hmveYPsyEEC&q=%22environmental+revolution+%22&dq=%22environmental+revolution+%22&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y
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paragraph, which this article lacked at the time of this AfD. The "environmental revolution" seemed to be concerned with technology and
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the term. But few describe it in detail, and fewer still describe it consistently. The reality is that the very
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The Wizard and the Prophet: Two Remarkable Scientists and Their Dueling Visions to Shape Tomorrow's World
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as you don't vote Green it seems you have no COI so could you possibly consider my edit request at
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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is incapable of covering them all. Indeed, as has been pointed out above, it would border on
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Rising Tides: A History of the Environmental Revolution and Visions for an Ecological Age
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might be more appropriate than anything else, based on the case you are making
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Environmental Marketing: Strategies, Practice, Theory, and Research
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Global Environmental Security: From Protection to Prevention
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The Environmental Revolution: Speeches on Conservation
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