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553:: This page is extremely well sources in terms of references. No valid reason has been given for deletion as no policies have been contravened. I recommend that this AFD be closed down and ruled null and void based on the fact that Guy's entire reason for nominating it is in itself a POV statement against the entry that does nothing to assert itself as fact. - 425:
for developing a separate RV piece that relies entirely upon mainstream peer-reviewed material and avoids all partisan/parapsychology sources. (In the interests of full disclosure, the article was prepared by a friend of mine, with my encouragement, in response to this suggestion.) Perhaps it is
272:, and IEEE, then it's hard to dismiss as failing WP:FRINGE. NickPenguin's suggested targets seem appropriate, but it would be nice to have just one to suggest, lest it not actually be merged. I plan to return to this AfD when I have more time to look more closely. 571:
Perhaps the title is too narrow and contrived, as noted earlier. Would a broader title make keeping it more palatable, rather than commingling this material with the fluff in the main RV piece?
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now too "mainstream POV" as he says above, but I think we could work that issue without speedy deletion, while holding out a vision of eventually replacing the relevant material in
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I am not certain if the information in this article is true, perhaps someone can check the sources. But if it is, then content should be moved into relevant sections of
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Heh! There are two pretty entrenched camps there - "RV is real and the scientific community is a huge conspiracy to do it down" versus "Yeah, right. Now prove it."
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and find Guy's fork concerns well founded. This article seems better referenced than the RV article section at first glance, but... I'm recommending
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with the expectation that the fork editors will head back to the RV article and the usual content disagreement process can work it's magic there.
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and others, above. This seems like some useful work, if the references are legitimate, but it makes more sense in
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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focusing on 'at SRI' is just too specific. Maybe just make it a Psi research page? Seems notable in some form.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Just what we need! Another article inflating the importance of the brief 1970s fad for psychic "research".
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It looks like there is real information here, but it hardly necessitates its own article. Especially as
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Irrelevant, remote viewing research exists and this page is about research, not remote viewing itself. -
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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has nominated this for speedy deletion, as it should have addressed his own Nov 10 suppport
294:, but the mainstream POV keeps creeping in and the RV crowd hate that. This is a POV fork. 260:
The topic seems very contrived, but if the references check out (I havn't verified them) in
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is enough, and the content of that can be summed up as 'Remote Viewing doesn't exist'.
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which is, IMHO, hopelessly self-promoting POV and unfixable at the moment.
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The number of sources available suggests that it is notable in itself. -
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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This is not speedy deletion. And this piece is a POV fork.
609:, in part because the logical parent article is so sparse. 117: 113: 109: 631:- As it is not that big that a subpage is needed yet. 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 316:Aha! thanks for the tip, will take a closer look. 657:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 332:Remote_Viewing#Early_SRI_experiments 24: 529:. Doesn't need its own article. 413:Keep, with probably merge later 1: 641:00:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC) 546:18:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 534:18:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 522:17:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 493:16:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 457:15:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 435:15:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 386:11:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 343:22:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 321:18:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 308:11:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 282:04:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 250:03:53, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 233:03:05, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 216:03:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 166:02:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 148:02:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 70:22:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC) 623:06:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC) 602:20:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC) 581:22:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC) 563:20:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC) 473:12:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC) 404:20:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC) 361:16:07, 1 December 2007 (UTC) 44:The result was consensus to 290:That content is already in 674: 488:is fairly sparce anyway. - 629:Merge into parent article 541:as unnecessary POV fork. 84:Early psi research at SRI 76:Early psi research at SRI 650:Please do not modify it. 183:Extra-sensory perception 32:Please do not modify it. 592:as per NickPenguin. 415:I'm surprised that 270:Scientific American 594:Capitalistroadster 486:SRI International 455: 359: 306: 191:SRI International 146: 58:SRI International 665: 652: 618: 613: 516: 502:User:NickPenguin 449: 353: 300: 211: 202: 197: 140: 125: 107: 34: 673: 672: 668: 667: 666: 664: 663: 662: 661: 655:deletion review 648: 633:Judgesurreal777 616: 611: 510: 372:The article on 330:I've looked at 214: 207: 200: 195: 98: 82: 79: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 671: 669: 660: 659: 626: 625: 604: 586: 585: 584: 583: 566: 565: 548: 536: 524: 506:Parapsychology 495: 478: 477: 476: 475: 460: 459: 438: 437: 428:remote viewing 409: 408: 407: 406: 389: 388: 374:Remote Viewing 366: 365: 364: 363: 328: 327: 326: 325: 324: 311: 310: 292:remote viewing 285: 284: 252: 235: 218: 204: 179:Remote viewing 175:Parapsychology 171:Keep and merge 168: 132: 131: 78: 73: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 670: 658: 656: 651: 645: 644: 643: 642: 638: 634: 630: 624: 621: 619: 614: 608: 605: 603: 599: 595: 591: 588: 587: 582: 578: 574: 570: 569: 568: 567: 564: 560: 556: 552: 549: 547: 544: 540: 537: 535: 532: 528: 525: 523: 520: 517: 515: 514: 507: 503: 499: 496: 494: 491: 487: 483: 480: 479: 474: 470: 466: 462: 461: 458: 453: 448: 447: 442: 441: 440: 439: 436: 433: 429: 424: 420: 419: 414: 411: 410: 405: 401: 397: 393: 392: 391: 390: 387: 383: 379: 375: 371: 368: 367: 362: 357: 352: 351: 346: 345: 344: 341: 337: 333: 329: 322: 319: 315: 314: 313: 312: 309: 304: 299: 298: 293: 289: 288: 287: 286: 283: 279: 275: 271: 267: 263: 259: 257: 253: 251: 247: 243: 239: 236: 234: 230: 226: 222: 219: 217: 212: 210: 203: 198: 192: 188: 187:Psychokinesis 184: 180: 176: 172: 169: 167: 163: 159: 155: 152: 151: 150: 149: 144: 139: 138: 129: 123: 119: 115: 111: 106: 102: 97: 93: 89: 85: 81: 80: 77: 74: 72: 71: 67: 63: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 649: 646: 628: 627: 606: 589: 550: 538: 526: 512: 511: 497: 481: 444: 416: 412: 378:Nick mallory 369: 348: 335: 295: 269: 265: 261: 255: 254: 237: 220: 208: 170: 153: 135: 133: 45: 43: 31: 28: 555:perfectblue 551:Strong Keep 531:Majoreditor 465:perfectblue 396:perfectblue 242:Peter Fleet 340:Pete.Hurd 318:Pete.Hurd 274:Pete.Hurd 240:per nom. 543:Eusebeus 513:Tim Ross 490:Verdatum 209:contribs 128:View log 266:Science 225:Rjd0060 201:Penguin 101:protect 96:history 62:Bearian 539:Delete 370:Delete 336:delete 262:Nature 258:delete 238:Delete 221:Delete 154:Delete 105:delete 50:WP:POV 607:Merge 590:Merge 527:Merge 498:Merge 482:Merge 452:Help! 356:Help! 303:Help! 256:merge 143:Help! 122:views 114:watch 110:links 46:merge 16:< 637:talk 612:Ante 598:talk 577:talk 559:talk 500:per 469:talk 423:here 400:talk 382:talk 278:talk 246:talk 229:talk 196:Nick 193:. -- 189:and 162:talk 118:logs 92:talk 88:edit 66:talk 54:WP:N 52:and 48:per 617:lan 573:jxm 446:Guy 432:jxm 418:Guy 350:Guy 297:Guy 158:JJL 137:Guy 126:โ€“ ( 56:to 639:) 600:) 579:) 561:) 508:. 471:) 402:) 384:) 280:) 268:, 264:, 248:) 231:) 185:, 181:, 177:, 164:) 120:| 116:| 112:| 108:| 103:| 99:| 94:| 90:| 68:) 60:. 635:( 596:( 575:( 557:( 518:ยท 467:( 454:) 450:( 398:( 380:( 358:) 354:( 323:\ 305:) 301:( 276:( 244:( 227:( 213:) 205:( 160:( 145:) 141:( 130:) 124:) 86:( 64:(

Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
WP:POV
WP:N
SRI International
Bearian
talk
22:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Early psi research at SRI
Early psi research at SRI
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Guy
Help!
02:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
JJL
talk
02:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Parapsychology
Remote viewing
Extra-sensory perception
Psychokinesis

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