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Mosmof you sound like a broken record. Removing this entry has tried and failed, whats new about trying to remove it and it failed a few months ago ? yes it is your criteria nowhere does it say how many media mentions/features are needed. and I'd argue that the OBserver and Business Week are in fact
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of a subject, and none of the sources cited qualifies - the NY Observer profile is brief by any reasonable standard. Second, appearing in various publications does not make a subject notable. It could just mean that he has a good publicist and keeps him in contact with the press. Now, if you can find
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KEEP A feature surely means being included in the list of most noteable people in NY Real Estate for perhaps the most prestigious NY Real Estate publication. Business Week and Bloomberg were extensive features, as was Observer. Check Google news today and see if he's "always quoted in Manhattan real
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Individual sold more real estate than anyone else @ 15 CPW, which is NY's most expensive development. That alone is legendary. Beyond that, Business Week, The Observer and countless others have featured him. Surely he's very noteable. (and the Observer wasnt a whos who it ranked top 15 real estate
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Mosmof wasnt aware that your criteria for noteability is in-depth coverage. And yes, Business Week and Observer features would constitue in-depth coverage. You tried this tactic 6 months ago and were defeated. If nothings changed pls lets agree the page should remain intact. His case is now
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If you're going to try to pass yourself off as a different person, you might want to try a different writing style and a new misspelling for "notable". But anyway, please don't misrepresent what I wrote. I'm saying that "always quoted in Manhattan real estate articles" is
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Strong Keep. Yes he is an attorney and developer, and 1 of the most successful in the US representing oligarchs who buy. Clearly thats a major big deal on its own. Stong keep (and Mosmof, mentioning the NY Observer article alone makes it relevant and noteable.)
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I've done a rewrite using the sources we already had and left out what I thought were extraneous details or plaudits. There's still some biographical details missing and not sure if the article will expand beyond stub level, but it's a little better now, I think?
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And a further KEEP would come from reading the Subjects talk page and see that this same user tried this same tactic 6 months ago and similarly then was defeated. Check Mermelsteins public record since then. Countless coverage and success. Very noteable.
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are about the subject, and there are dozens of other mentions in the Google News archives that assume notability. But the article as currently written doesn't come close to meeting Knowledge (XXG) standards, and should be stubified.
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him. Most of the other mentions in Google News are pullquotes. With the absence of in-depth coverage, it's going to be difficult to have enough verifiable information to build anything more than a stub.
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features. They are. What changes do you propose to keep this live ? (make them here before you make them there). This is 1 of foremost leaders in NY Real estate he's very prominent.
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a reliable, third party source talk about how he's always quoted in Manhattan real estate articles, then great. Otherwise, making a claim about how he's always in the papers amounts to
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last year, and it's telling that no other articles link here. Also, the article has been written for the most part by his firm's PR agency, and if kept, would probably need a rewrite.
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stronger. Are you saying being named 1 of the most prominent NYC attorneys alone isnt noteable ? Isnt selling more than anyone else in NYCs most expensive building noteable ?
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Since the above users are likely the same person, I'll respond to both together. First, you're using "featured" very liberally, to mean "quoted" and "mentioned". What
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a lot, but I have yet to see a single feature article about him. What do you mean "this tactic"? You mean rules and common sense and trying to reason with you?
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Have rewritten and added details. Is this now OK ? There is plenty of verifiably and important information. Others have suggested edits ?
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See, I looked at the same two articles and saw articles about real estate that happen to mention Mermelstein and his dealings, not articles
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I think it needs a lot more work than that, but I'm happy to help. But in the meantime, please do read up on Knowledge (XXG) policies and
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THis has been raised before by much the same characters and should now be acceptable. Clearly newsworthy and meets news standards.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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For the love of god, please learn to read. It's not MY criteria. It's basic rules of Knowledge (XXG) - do read
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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estate articles" as you say is the criteria. Seems to be a strong yes.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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