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I have added three more sources (one in English, one in Chinese, one in Uyghur) that are non-primary and with good coverage of the person. There are a few hundred sources in the Uyghur language, most of them just trivial mentions, but others are more substantial, and it requires time and effort to
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All Chinese news sources are controlled in some way by the Chinese government, so unless you want to remove all Chinese news sources, then the point is moot. In any case the independence in GNG refers to independence from the subject, which the Chinese government is. The point is still that Chinese
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news sources considered him significant enough to write about him. Some of the news sources rely on what he said, therefore they are not just simple quotes, but independent articles where the information he provided becomes the subject of the article.
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for me. Being an Uyghur engineer in the US is unusual and mildly intriguing but in-depth media coverage (more than just a brief quote in a wider story) would be needed for actual notability that way. —
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I meant that it’s not exactly reliable, not that it’s not independent. News article coverage about the subject of his quotes still don’t constitute significant coverage about Sidick himself. —
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sources. As far as reliability goes, it would be the same as any other news outlet in China. I have already given sources in Chinese and English, there are sure to be sources in Uyghur, e.g.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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criteria with relatively low citation stats for his optics publications (eight with 30-131
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go through all of them, but there should be a few dozens of them that focus on him.
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He is better known as an activist for Uyghur causes rather than as an academic, so
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Only a trivial mention and a primary source. This is a recipe for deletion (see
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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does not meet the inclusion criteria for academics.
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