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417:. Folkspraak is notable for being (probably) the first collaborative conlang project online. Besides, it won't be a problem to find some coverage in reliable sources. The problem is that over the years, Folkspraak has several times been rebooted from start, and at some point it became a common moniker for several different language projects, some of which are quite different from others. That doesn't necessarily mean they are different languages, since all versions are mutually intelligible, but a common standard was never reached. As a result, it is impossible to describe Folkspraak as a single language with a single standard, without taking into account its history. And obviously, it is nonsense to present the phonology of one version and take text samples from different versions. I agree that a redirect to 441:"Probably"—you don't even say firmly that it has the one characteristic based on which you're asserting notability. Besides that, I need to remark that "notable" in Knowledge (XXG)-speak doesn't have its usual English meaning: it doesn't mean "worthy of note" (that is, worthy of note because it's the first ...) but " 269:
constructed language making it suitable to be "a sort of" lingua franca—then, later, we're shown the Lord's Prayer in five "dialects" of it—and they're patently different languages, no more alike than the diverse languages they're supposed to be a lingua franca for. So this article isn't even telling
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different), with independent groups of people having different motivations and following different strategies working on them, then they're different subjects. The fact that they keep appropriating the same name for their diversity of projects doesn't make them a single article topic. And—just look
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I can find no reliable independent sourcing for this article to show the subject's notability. It's apparently an idea that's under development and is being pulled in multiple directions by different people/groups. More than thirteen years since the first version of this article was first created,
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I'm taking another shot, seeing that there were several no-consensus outcomes for lack of input, at putting this up for a deletion discussion. There is still, six years after the last discussion, no coverage in independent reliable sources, so it fails
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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In addition, if these are all different projects (and the article stresses that they
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at them in the comparison in the article. No two of them are the same language.
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would be the best solution, but please leave the page history intact. —
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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and it still does not appear to have significant traction.
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noted in one or more of the various ways described at
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