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975:- The deceased satisfies the converse of criteria 2 stated in the original post of this discussion - The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field. In this case, the field the deceased significantly contributed to was in the tech sector. A notable independent contribution comes from a financially successful but controversial web application called PrankDial, other significant contributions are cofounding transport/ridesharing service companies called Gokada and Pathao. The independent contribution has endured in history to be widely used, while the latter two contributions can be argued to be significant in history despite the deceased not having independently created these two ventures. All this on top of the coverage in his death warrants a separate article. References to these contributions from reliable sources exist and have already been highlighted in this discussion chain. 707:— You, my friend, seem quite anxious to delete the page of Fahim Saleh. Fahim was a giant of Entrepreneurship. The fact that he did not receive much media coverage prior his death does not belittle the contributions of his life; it shows the foolishness of the media to overlook the potential of this young visionary. Saleh was the mind behind PrankDial, a famous app that earned him over $ 10 Million. He also founded Pathao, a successful transportation business in Bangladesh, whose model he sought to replicate in Lagos, Nigeria with his new business Gokada. You itch to delete his page. I wonder why. I think I know: you are an Agent. Of whom, I do not know. But you are an agent -- an agent of destruction and assault. Fahim Saleh was already killed. But you, my friend, are killing his legacy -- an act which I consider far worse. I hope you have the basic human decency and common sense to revoke this deletion and reconsider what you have just done. 1097:, it says "Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included". Also on the page, it says "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." There has been significant coverage of Fahim in many sources (just look at the references on the current page), and those sources certainly meet the requirements (the articles from the New York Times, the BBC, and HuffPost, for example). 87: 1092:
Different language Wikipedias don't follow the decisions of other ones for a number of reasons, including different rules and different availability of sources in varying languages. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't do the same as Bangla Knowledge, just that we shouldn't be persuaded just by that.
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I'll keep my input short and simple. Fahim has had a significant enough impact on the world especially considering what he has done in the developing world. Yes he has been getting extensive media coverage because of his tragic death but that does not at all take away what he had accomplished and
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an also PrankDial. According to The New York Times published a news on fahim was a Millionaire business-man. What else do you need to believe that he was a significant person and businessman ? Change your stupid Bengali wikipedia politic mind because its not your Bengali wikipedia like your own
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There is sustained significant coverage of him pre-death that shows he is notable. Furthermore, with regards to the AFD itself, it is highly improper to strike comments made by other editors, even if they are seemingly made by SPAs. Tagging as SPA should be sufficient.
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Strongly recommended to keep the article in Knowledge. An young entrepreneur had few very successful and innovative ventures in different countries in more than three different continents and tragic murder that draw huge attention of mass media in different
1237:. Even, Who vote here Delete and redirect, just need to understand that He didn't come to notable from his death or his emotional place. He was a successful entrepreneur and was a highly prominent business-man in his own right. This article passes per 1233:
choice. He’s just not known for his murders, A quick search on Google News shows headlines from the Washington Post, CNN, New York Times, Business Insider and many other reliable sources. His life and death are well covered, It was
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is also very significant. There is need to improve the article, however as it relies heavily on articles related to his death and so to the untrained eye, it would appear that he is only famous for his death. That is not the
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It is hard to read your English. You can write either "You guys are making a fun of encyclopedia" or "You guys have made encyclopedia a funny thing" where I assume by encyclopedia you referred to wikipedia.
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A quick search on Google News shows headline from the Washingtong Post, CNN, New York Times, Business Insider, and tons of other reliable sources. His life and death is well covered.
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The subject was a highly prominent business professional who made a significant impact in multiple countries. This request for deletion is clearly a mistake.
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under the same criteria. I would urge the people voting here for deletion to delete those articles of Rodney King or George Floyd first. Thanks.
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When you say "Please mention that by which criteria the subject is notable accept his death?" do you mean "except" instead of "accept"?
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My understanding is that ANYBIO is relevant for historical figures, which is not relevant for Fahim. In addition, on the page of
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The person has not received a well-known and significant award or honor or has been nominated for such an award several times.
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The person has not made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field.
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in Nigeria. A google search of him shows significant coverage of him, prior to his death. He generally meets GNG as he has
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You guys are made an encyclopedia fun. Please mention that by which criteria the subject is notable accept his death?
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A tech CEO who founded respectable companies should NOT have their wikipedia page deleted under any circumstance.
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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article here also. We should never follow just a emotional side, we need consider every kind of Knowledge rules.
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did you read this article or check news reference. Can you explain why you vote for redirect?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The person has an entry in the Dictionary of National Biography or similar publication.
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This isn't where you make an argument to keep the article. The place for that is
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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search was duly conducted. Why hasn’t this been speedy kept already?
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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and his death generated significant international coverage
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Bangla Knowledge also delete this article and redirect to
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for inclusion with the number of significant independent
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The subject is clearly notable enough therefore passes
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Failed GNG. He gets some coverage because of murder.
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