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746:. Unless it explicitly says alternative newspapers are not valid then there is no reason to suppose they are not valid. The guidelines say nothing about "tabloids" either which was the basis for you claiming alternative newspapers aren't valid. I have no idea why you have made it your personal mission to have this deleted but it appears that you have made this personal for some reason. Please just step back and stop making up guidelines and removing valid references. 1054:
states "Tabloid journalism is a style of journalism that emphasizes sensational crime stories, gossip columns about celebrities and sports stars, extreme political views and opinions from one perspective, junk food news, and sun sign astrology." This is an indication of unreliablitity - it aims to
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Punknews.org is a website founded by Aubin Paul in 1999. The website publishes music news and album reviews relating to punk rock, hardcore punk, ska, alternative, indie rock, heavy metal and hip hop. It features user-submitted and editor-evaluated articles, through a publishing format much like
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You desperately want this article deleted so you started removing valid references using made up criteria and when confronted you spent a half an hour scouring Knowledge (XXG) for something you might be able to use and all you could find was an essay but no guideline. You claimed
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that Metro Times was an alternative weekly which somehow made it basically a tabloid and that tabloids aren't WP:RS. Not a single part of that is true but that was your argument. Show me any discussion on Knowledge (XXG) that says
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2. Although it has significant coverage, I struggle to see reliability in the source. I have never heard of silive.com and it appears to be more of a blog area, but that is simply my observation
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says anything at all about "tabloids" or "alternative newspapers" and I will. You don't get to make up guidelines and then dare me to disprove them. Here is a guideline
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which is also reliable. Your personal view of the professionalism of the verbiage doesn't matter. It was authored by a member of the Fort Worth Music Hall of Fame
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discussing its validity), equivalent television shows, should be used with caution, especially if they are making sensational claims. The
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Ok, I'll just ask Davo if he can write a guideline on every news website in every country of the world. Davo is up for it! Lets go Davo.
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which it doesn't. You claimed alternative newspapers are tabloids which violate WP:RS but WP:RS says nothing about tabloids
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Why do you think your personal view of the professionalism of the writing has anything to do with whether or not it is a
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4. Doesn't mention the album (after a skim read and a search for the term "Funland" - if it is mentioned, please say)
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as this has been reviewed by multiple sources reliable enough for popular music, as currently cited in the article.
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Because whether or not Willbb234 appreciates the writing style has nothing to do with whether or not something is a
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alternative newspapers being invalid. I don't have to disprove made up guidelines. You have to find real ones.
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Of course you didn't devalue me as a person and I never said you did. You still devalued my view, however.
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Oh, and while Davo is doing that, would you mind telling me where it says that Detroit Metro Times is a
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didn't matter. I didn't devalue you as a person. Please don't pretend I made insults I never made.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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which is a reliable source. The author of that article is the news manager for SILive.com.
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Overlooking that you are using your own views to radically reinterpret the guidelines at
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bring in an audience by shocking them instead of telling completely the true story.
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is deliberately removing valid sources in an attempt to have the article deleted.
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What I personally think of the style of writing has nothing to do with it meeting
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So you think "Sorry, kids" is the first sentence of a reliable piece of writing?
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The album has references which include reviews that meet the first criteria of
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5. Issues with reliability. See what the Spanish Knowledge (XXG) has to say:
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have been added which cement the fact that this meets the first criteria of
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It does, however, state that tabloids are to be avoided, which the article
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and I can find no mention of "tabloids" either. Where is this guideline?
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as it reads very much like a blog post - first sentence is "Sorry, kids."
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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used earthy language but his journalism was still journalism.
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and isn't a criteria for claiming a reference isn't reliable.
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I will give a breakdown of my views on the sources provided:
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Just waiting for Davo to finish up writing the guidelines.
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If you are saying that I am "radically reinterpret"
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