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264:, a wargaming and roleplaying gaming system derived from the original Star Trek TV series, not connected to the new TV series). The article's description is accurate and sourced to the gaming materials it's derived from (3 of the several dozen printed books, and plenty more magazines, related), and starts by placing it in real world context. If you feel there's too much cruft in the middle, that's not something that it's appropriate to fix by AFDing the article. One should delete if it 98: 93: 125: 233:, specifically, it's nothing but plot summary and game guide. I understand that this relates to the gaming version of Klingons as is described on the article page, but this violates 102: 85: 324:
Really more approriate at the Star Trek Wiki, the relevant details can be described in our Star Fleet Universe description, without all the inuniverse references.
89: 312:. The problems with this article, which it does have could be fixed. Therefore it needs to be tagged appropriately and cleaned up not deleted. 81: 73: 328: 316: 296: 284: 272: 248: 217: 197: 181: 169: 156: 67: 190: 17: 165:, though it appears that it your opinion that any page involving a gaming/rpg subject is not to be included in Knowledge (XXG). -- 241: 346: 36: 51: 268:
the required WP:FICT real-world elements. This does, plus much cruft in the middle. Cruft == cleanup, not delete.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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or merge. Without significant real-world information, this level of plot detail is not justified. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Seems notable, referenced, but could do with a rewrite (But this is no reason to delete)
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as per Georgewilliamherbert. Article is neither a POV fork, nor original research.
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which is widely accepted by editors already, before commenting on this article.
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Knowledge (XXG):Village_pump_(policy)#Fancruft_and_Role_playing_games
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Wow a cruft argument in the nomination, that should make this a
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as it contains basically no details that aren't in-universe.
148:, and there are no independent references to support this 115: 111: 107: 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 260:fork; it's a fictional source material fork (see 349:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 82:Klingon Empire (Star Fleet Universe) 74:Klingon Empire (Star Fleet Universe) 24: 205:While what you linked was policy 193:before commenting on this AfD - 329:02:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 317:20:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 297:05:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC) 285:06:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC) 273:21:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC) 249:15:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC) 218:20:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 198:14:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC) 182:13:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC) 170:02:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC) 157:00:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC) 68:13:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 1: 310:WP:HARMLESS#I_do_not_like_it 211:WP:HARMLESS#I_do_not_like_it 366: 342:Please do not modify it. 229:This is in violation of 32:Please do not modify it. 136:fork from the article 270:Georgewilliamherbert 262:Star Fleet Universe 256:- This is not an 167:Donovan Ravenhull 142:original research 63: 357: 344: 246: 123: 105: 65: 61: 57: 54: 34: 365: 364: 360: 359: 358: 356: 355: 354: 353: 347:deletion review 340: 242: 203:Counter-comment 96: 80: 77: 64: 59: 52: 50: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 363: 361: 352: 351: 334: 332: 331: 319: 299: 287: 275: 254:Keep (cleanup) 251: 224: 223: 222: 221: 220: 209:, Please read 172: 130: 129: 76: 71: 56: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 362: 350: 348: 343: 337: 336: 335: 330: 327: 323: 320: 318: 315: 311: 307: 303: 300: 298: 295: 291: 288: 286: 283: 279: 276: 274: 271: 267: 263: 259: 255: 252: 250: 247: 245: 240: 236: 232: 228: 225: 219: 216: 212: 208: 204: 201: 200: 199: 196: 192: 188: 185: 184: 183: 180: 176: 173: 171: 168: 164: 161: 160: 159: 158: 155: 154:Gavin Collins 151: 147: 143: 139: 135: 127: 121: 117: 113: 109: 104: 100: 95: 91: 87: 83: 79: 78: 75: 72: 70: 69: 66: 62: 55: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 341: 338: 333: 321: 305: 301: 289: 277: 266:doesn't have 265: 257: 253: 243: 226: 206: 202: 189:Please read 186: 174: 162: 131: 49: 45: 43: 31: 28: 306:speedy keep 150:WP:Fancruft 140:reads like 235:WP:FICTION 207:discussion 146:WP:Fiction 132:This is a 322:transwiki 294:Edward321 282:Ned Scott 138:Klingons 126:View log 326:Mbisanz 314:Viperix 258:article 227:Delete. 215:Viperix 187:Comment 99:protect 94:history 278:Delete 231:WP:NOT 195:Fosnez 179:Fosnez 134:WP:POV 103:delete 60:(talk) 244:juice 239:Mango 120:views 112:watch 108:links 53:Maxim 16:< 308:per 302:Keep 290:Keep 175:Keep 163:Keep 116:logs 90:talk 86:edit 46:Keep 152:.-- 124:– ( 118:| 114:| 110:| 106:| 101:| 97:| 92:| 88:| 48:. 128:) 122:) 84:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Maxim
(talk)
13:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Klingon Empire (Star Fleet Universe)
Klingon Empire (Star Fleet Universe)
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
WP:POV
Klingons
original research
WP:Fiction
WP:Fancruft
Gavin Collins
00:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Donovan Ravenhull
02:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Fosnez
13:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Village_pump_(policy)#Fancruft_and_Role_playing_games
Fosnez

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