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That was my experience as well. People are getting caught up in numbers but are losing sight of how they matter. Sure, the Yukon is sparsely populated, so there aren't going to be as many stories as for people elsewhere. That said, the stories we have seen are largely duplicative, with the same basic
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A couple of notes to add to this discussion. 1. It's the Yukon. "Significant coverage" might be limited to just two or three sources, because it's possible that's all that is available there. 2. Did anyone look at the Google results? I'm not sure how many are reliable, but there are quite a few. 3.
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