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Ordinarily I'd want to say the existence of lots of product users (and they seem to have a lot of users, even in google scholar results) would generate interest among encyclopedia users, and would want to see the article retained. The nominator's conclusion coverage is all bought-and-paid-for seems
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I deny the association you mentioned; my stance is solely based on
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Solid NCORP fail. Every single hit one can find on Googe is a PR piece obviously written or paid for by the company, as are all the references. Page author claims to be from NZ, but has this inexplicable interest in
Chinese tech companies. No response to previous COI query on talk.
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You are just a university student in China, and you are still young. Please don't use your worldview to interpret this world, for it is vast. Just because you haven't seen a B2 bomber in China, does that mean you don't know of its existence? Thank you!
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