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387:, on the other, it has soon became a high profile product to justify an article thanks to Trump. I'm pretty sure most of these information are somewhat rumors as indeed the product is never released, on the other, there are enough news report on it so that people would be interested in the title. I should suggest merge to some article about Huawei's role in the trade war, however that article does not exist yet afaik, so I'm inclined to keep on this one until a merge target surface. 361:: Per previous deletion request opened by you. The fact that the story suddently changed does not mean the OS is not longer notable, and the article does not meet the definition of WP:CRYSTAL, as high Huawei personalities (Richard Yu, Liang Hua and Catherine Chen) declared about the product (in different circumstances), and the article has almost 30 references. 275:, and that they do not intend to replace Android on its phones with it. The narrative is confusing, and this premature article will only make it worse once I inevitably have to add said detail to it (as, based on their statement, it is now factually inaccurate). It can be handled better in summary style on the Huawei article. 366:
Then, the article should mention the OS as the past declarations claimed its past purposes (a replacement for Android), in addition with the conflicts between Donald Trump and Huawei, as well as the current plans (an OS for embedded devices), and the future ones (add Android-compatible layer to
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because Huawei has not yet made any specific statements about what this operating system is, when it will be released, and so on, besides the fact that it exists. None of my concerns have been addressed since, and the entirety of this article is based on speculative statements.
404:. Some of the info in the article does seem to fall foul of WP:CRYSTAL, but contradictory info from the company itself can be reliably documented and isn't a case of "speculation and rumour". If the article's at risk of being out of date then that merits something like a 459:
BTW, Huawei's license to source components from the US will expire soon, so Huawei can't use android in the future. Even if it doesn't end up being called hongmeng we can just move the article and talk about how it started life and how it's used by then.
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HongMeng in order to be used with smartphones). Even, the article mentions clearly the begins of the OS, and an embedded OS for the IoT could be perfectly adapted for smartphones (and adding Android-compatible layer is part of the plans). --
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During the last AFD, users chose to maintain this article, despite the fact that it is a blatant violation of
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I'm quite conflicted on this one, on the one hand, like the proposer said, it is
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Hongmeng will become history, even if it's never released.
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but a low-latency operating system for industrial equipment
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In addition, Huawei suddenly stated that "HongmengOS"
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the Article. The subject is truly reliable and meets
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