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The deletion request above violates WP:PROD by not trying to find an alternative, suggesting the poster wants to see the information gone from the site and rejects 2 reputable sources as noteworthy. Furthermore, the poster violates WP:DNB. The General Notability Criterion states that at least 1 of
349:. famousredwoods.com is privately registered and there does not appear to be an about page or similar to identify who it is written by. Additionally, the website is only valid with an insecure http url and I therefore conclude that it is not a reliable source either. We need to find 515:, they responded by removing the "sources exist" tag. I'm not entirely sure what that means. I personally was not able to find any other sources (but I don't really know the best way to search for something like this, I was just seeing what my search engine spat out). -- 378:
I don't believe that "the site can only be accessed through http" has any bearing on whether it is a reliable source. it does however seem to be a self-published source with no information on editorial control, so it probably isn't reliable.
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I agree with noq and hike395 that the sources currently in the article are not reliable and so do not speak to notability. This page was passed through AfC, where it was tagged "sources exist". When I
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I did search for the resouces and it was linking to some material but when i check it now there is nothing. Please, i agree with my mistake. it shoukld be nominated for speedy deletion. Thanks
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the criteria must be met outlined on its page. As this is at least the most in detail covering of a largely secret tree on the internet, it meets the guidelines
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The article is currently only supported by mdvaden.com and famousredwoods.com. Both of those sources were previously determined to be unreliable (by consensus).
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MD Vaden is a certified arborist, the credentials can be viewed on his site, and example of a self-published site meeting Knowledge's exceptional critera
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mdvaden.com site is a promotional personal site for mdvaden and there is no indication he is considered an expert on Redwood trees. Therefore it is not a
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is a process for uncontroversial deletions. It is not required. I thought this might be a controversial deletion, so decided to bring this up at
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I checked: I cannot find any other sources than mdvaden.com and famousredwoods.com for Hail Storm. Maybe Jqmhelios11 can find something?
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per the nomination, no independent sources exist that support the notability, and per the prior discussions at
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I don't believe that I have violated any behavioral guidelines of Knowledge. I'm sorry if Jqmhelios11 feels
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Thank you for clarifying! In that case, I have updated my !vote to "delete". --
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not on its own no, but part of an overall impression of amateurish setup.
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for a similar topic that was determined to be non-notable by consensus. —
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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for discussion, rather than attempting a unilateral deletion.
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and neither of those sources meets the latter requirement.
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FWIW, I went through the Google searches described in
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This article truly does not currently appear to pass
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