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For the reasons stated above and especially egregiously bad sourcing. If crafty or someone else can find some third party sourcing for this group, I might change my mind, but i really have my doubts that this group ever amounted to much.
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The sourcing of this article has substantially improved since nomination, im still not convinced the group amounts to much, but at least we know they actually amounted to something.
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