445:. For a non-AAA title made after 2000, that was not a subject of short-lived fame on reddit and does not put much effort into promotion, it’s virtually impossible to have more than one or two mentions. Given the sheer numer of software produced and games counted in 5- or 6-digit figures, being noticed at all already puts a title among the important entries. In particular if we’re talking about an open source game, which is by itself a niche genre. And within this particular genre, Hedgewars is a mature product with a long history, mentioned in computer magazines (
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384:- I was unable to find any significant coverage in magazines in Archive.org; the majority of what I found is rather brief, and largely discusses game mechanics rather than giving a review. Here's what I found: "Non-webgame of the month" in
571:, I write a couple of articles on obscure board games, and of course they won't have loads of coverage. IMHO, a sensible bar is two or more in-depth, independent, reliable refs, note I've also changed my ! vote to neutral, many thanks!
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