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from the Major Universities(i.e. Purdue, Columbia, etc.) come to Miami-Dade because we were one of the very first if not the first college to have a Computer Science curriculum(It was called EDP, Electronic Data Processing!). These Universities did not have a EDP degree program and they eventually copied Miami-Dade's program! In the computer lab where the college's computer was we had fun making Snoopy bigger and bigger to fool the person giving the demo! smile! Oh by the way! I did use Snoopy on a IBM 1130 on my job! We also did Business programming on the IBM 1130 in FORTRAN! COBOL was not invented yet!
287:. As someone who actually worked on an 1130 I don't recall ever seeing a snoopy calendar. My opinion would be changed if some references were provided. I suspect that if there are references, they would not be 1130 specific so the article would need to be renamed. If the consensus is to not keep, then a transwiki to 345:
in 1966 on a IBM 1620 computer! It was used as a demo to show what a computer could do with a pen plotter. The plotter was not a device that could be use with computers in that day! It had to be RPQ(Request for Price Quote)to IBM to do the I/O hardwiring to make it work. We would have dignitaries
450:, where Snoopy calendars are a proverbial hacker's (in the computer enthusiast sense) past-time. I can't provide a full literary citation right now seeing as how the local university has closed for the day, but I will be able to get access to their copy of the third edition later on. -- 488:
WP is not sourceforge. A better formatted article more encyclopedic in content and tone may be warrented though(without any code). Sidenote: Though in the 90s I was an engineer for awhile on one of the most used commercial fortran compilers and I never once heard of this.
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No, we should not "ignore all rules" in the face of original research which is most likely incorrect and untrue. If this is honestly a part of computing history as you claim, please dig up a couple reliable sources which reflect this and I will gladly change my position.
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if appropriate, apparently not 1130-specific - the article seems to have been named such because the program can be run on a IBM 1130 emulator, by an editor who was new to Knowledge (XXG) conventions at the time, which is a formatting error, but not grounds for deletion.
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have graced the wall of many a computer room. If the information in the article is so unverifiable as to pose a problem, that's an argument for stubbifying the article, not deleting it. The topic itself is notable, albeit in the context of computer science.
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Continuing on that, we now have multiple, published, reliable references. The responses that you try to trivialize seek to debunk the nominator's understandable but false assumption that this is without significance.
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article from 1983, which specifically refers not to a Snoopy calendar, but "a line-printer Snoopy calendar for the year 1969" (fourteen years later!) as proof of computer expertise. It is also mentioned in the
400:. It doesn't matter if you made a Snoopy printout at your job 30 years ago. What matters is that this article has no reliable sources which demonstrate its encyclopedic merits, and I'm afraid that 312:, "a compendium of fact and folklore about computer hackerdom, cunningly disguised as a test," which is not a great big reliable source but serves to show that the calendar has iconic status. 194:. The Snoopy calendar is a famous piece of computing history. It's a little strange to actually have the code in the article, yes, but I think it's short enough that it's worth keeping. 476:
Historical interest or not, the full code does not belong into a Knowledge (XXG) article, and the rest is so short that it's probably better off in some other article.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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per nom, fails requirements for verifiability and appears to be giving undue weight to the subject to boot.
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The Snoopy calendar is part of computing folklore. It and other (more or less) savory pieces of
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have been provided. But I think the original-research-type comments indicate that it probably
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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as unverified original research which makes a number of far-fetched and unprovable claims.
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as part of the history of computing. If we lose this stuff, we lose a part of the past.
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Historically interesting. Not important, but neither are the sci-fi episode guides....
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notable, just in need of more research to find the sources that prove it.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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as per ObiterDicta, this is not an encyclopaedia article. --
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I do not think that this particular piece of code is notable
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Knowledge (XXG) is not a how-to guide or repository for code
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it still would be a better fit at Wikisource, not here.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
WP:OR
Daniel Bryant
09:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
IBM 1130/snoopy calendar
IBM 1130/snoopy calendar
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Hq3473
23:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG) is not a how-to guide or repository for code
ObiterDicta
pleadings
errata
appeals
00:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Someguy1221
00:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Mithent
13:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Pinball22

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