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471:, I'm not sure how much of a say I have since as a graphene researcher, I do occasionally advise Isaac on nanomaterials-related topics, but in response to the comments above: the channel does not purchase subscribers (I'm pretty sure Isaac couldn't afford to even if he wanted), I agree that the article needs to have bias removed and more sourcing added (there actually is quite a bit out there, I've seen several news articles feature him), and I agree that until these changes are met the article doesn't really meet the "notable persons" requirement. 784:, according to which academics can become notable by being frequently relied upon as subject-area experts. I don't really have a strong opinion about this article; it just struck me that the available sources were not being evaluated in the way that guidelines and precedent generally indicate. Of course, it's still possible that they don't add up to a case for notability, even so. 723:, "An independent interviewer represents the "world at large" giving attention to the subject, and as such, interviews as a whole contribute to the basic concept of notability." The subject's statements about themselves are primary sources, of course, but we can generally report those as long as they are not unduly self-serving, contested in reliable sources, etc. 52:. There was some off-wiki canvassing of opinions going on, but even discounting (not disregarding) those opinions the consensus is mixed. The biggest issue seems to be one of sourcing and puffery. It looks like some inroads have already been made on it, but there is no prejudice against renominating this article in 3-6 months if there are still RS/PUFF/GNG issues. 748:, "The subject: Is the main subject of the interview the interviewee's own life or activities (e.g., a film critic interviews a dancer about her upcoming performance) or something else (e.g., a radio host interviews a physician about the advantages of flu shots)?" The subject of the two interviews is not the interviewee's (Isaac Arthur's) own life or activities. 586:
Your editing history (handful of edits on a single subject, limited to October 2016) suggests that you have been canvassed to comment here. Neither of the TechRepublic pieces are substantively about the subject. Being interviewed in the media is not an indication of notability. Which leaves just the
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If you have identified puffery in the article could you remove it or enumerate on the article's talk page? I think this article has a good chance of becoming one of good quality, though admittedly I may have jumped the gun in publishing it too soon (instead of leaving it as a draft and giving it a
333:, also contains puffery, and lacking independent references that prove any significance. Since you can purchase youtube subscriber numbers, the count alone prove nothing much. But if someone else actually wrote about the YouTube channel, that might prove something. 206: 861:
I am Patreon supporter of Isaac Arthur but regular Knowledge editor. I think he has the minimum amount of notability to allow a Knowledge article. He was also the Chairman of the Ashtabula County Board of
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That's just one criterion among several for whether an interview is "useful"; it doesn't necessarily determine whether an interview counts toward notability. Compare
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local newspaper as a source... that really doesn't cut it. We need significant coverage in reliable sources. We need the sources to be about the subject in question.
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There are a few third party references already in the article to support notability and I found a couple others with a quick google search. Knowledge is
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There aren't any reliable sources about this person. I suggest this article be deleted as nothing much mentioned about this person can be verified
310:, I am not a personal benefactor to Isaac Arthur. I believe a science communicator with the capacity to reach out to 250,000 people meets the 166: 768: 637: 132: 127: 136: 86: 79: 17: 832:
True, but as a YouTube pop-science person, he meets some loose definition of "educator", so the "spirit" of a guideline like
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Isaac Arthur has been covered by various independent sources, establishing his notability. Among these include two articles (
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Agreed on the terms of more reliable secondary sources. In the mean time, instead of deletion, I would propose adding
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External links section may however be appropriate for removal, I do not believe it adds anything to the article.
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Your editing history (last edit May 2015) strongly suggests you have been canvassed to comment here.
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The main issue here is that the subject is not notable according to the requirements of WP articles.
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seems applicable. That's not a hard-and-fast argument, just a statement of where my sentiments lie.
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The available material is just barely enough to tip me over into considering him wiki-notable.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Hi there. Added a few references to the article and just wanted to let you know. --
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Sure, but bear in mind that Isaac Arthur is not an academic so is not subject to
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few rounds of revision). Thank you for spending the time to look it over.
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The two apparently canvassed !votes above were a little intriguing...
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Lack of notability, lack of reliable independent sources,
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