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390:, I suspect that the argument that this was a critical marker of legitimacy for Australian universities (as asserted in the previous AfD) may have been incorrect, although I may be misinterpreting this new text. If it is indeed the case that real, legitimate tertiary educational institutions in Australia are generally 367:
accretted post secondary degree granting is a bright line for notability. All such institutions deserve an article. It is part of the public good. A Knowledge (XXG) page is one way for employers to check if a school listed on a resume is real or diploma mill. If we suspend the bright line we get into
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Not the strongest of keeps but I think a definite one. There are multiple official government references. There are multiple referrals / recommendations by industry potential employer type organisations. Has a recognised over 30 years establishment with multiple campuses. There is sufficient
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Non-self-accrediting university that does not have in-depth coverage at reliable secondary sources. While tertiary-education providers are usually considered notable by default, Australia has many tiny private sector universities that are non-notable. Per arguments made at the
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now as it was deleted then. We are, as a community, moving away from the inherent notability standard of schools. And that's a good thing. It's what makes us an encyclopedia. No significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject has been presented.
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It's not self-accrediting though. The confusion regarding that claim was as to what self-accreditation means (and whether it's important), but the sources for the article unambiguously state that the subject is not a self-accrediting school.
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strange article in the Sydney Morning Herald, which could potentially be considered in-depth coverage in a reliable source, except that the article is very strangely written, seems borderline promotional and does not have author attribution.
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self-accrediting, then I agree with the argument above and no longer am in favor of deletion. I'd appreciate it if someone with more expertise could confirm what the meaning (and importance) of "self-accrediting" is in Australia.
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arguing case by case if this or that school is "important" enough for a page. We even accept pages on schools that are government approved but not operating yet so this nomination is out of order and against long standing practice
607:- it's not an orphan, and does have three campuses. I fixed the logo and hatnoted for reference improvements. Coverage is virtually non-existent, but there are at least two paywalled passing mentions in the Australian press 509:
is clearly met. Further, reading the sources, this Academy plays an important role in creative industries education in this country. Finally, its opinions are quoted (and hence valued) in the media, for example,
229: 88: 265:, self-accreditation is an important threshold for determining the notability of private universities in Australia in the absence of coverage in reliable sources, and a threshold that the JMC Academy 182: 311: 292: 422:. It has to be granted by the Australian Government and when granted, as here, it shows a high level of trust in the institution by the Government education department. 330: 518:. Of course, it is not a good article that needs much editing and the removal of puffery but AFD is not cleanup and the need for cleanup is not a ground for deletion. 223: 262: 83: 189: 114: 129: 52:. There is a clear absence of consensus to delete, and a reasonable argument for notability of the institution based on size and reach. 617: 483: 109: 102: 17: 499:
The fact that it self-accrediting shows that it has passed the necessary rigorous examination by the Australian education department
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and salt nothing has changed since the last time it was delete any recreation should be reviewed via appropriate discussion.
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Kudos to the nominator for finding an in-depth source and their open-minded approach. There is another decent source,
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Good rationales above by Ifnord, and Just Chilling. --
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --
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