229:. This journal is a long-standing journal in the relatively new field of computer science education. The Journal is indexed by several highly recognized services in computer science (in which ACM is arguably the top professional organization). The journal has significant coverage in Google Scholar and Microsoft Academic Search, including journal articles with hundreds of citations. This journal is second in importance only to the top journal in the field, the ACM Technical Symposium on Computer Science Education. This information was not available in the original version of the article, and has been added to address the concerns raised. I believe these improvements address both WP:GNG demonstrating coverage from reliable sources independent of the subject and WP:NJournals in that coverage by various Association for Computing Machinery services (ACM is among the most prestigious professional organizations in the field of computer science), demonstrate that it is significant, interesting, or unusual enough to be worthy of notice, as established by reliable sources. The speedy deletion notice itself includes "Scholar" as a way to search for external coverage - a quick search lists over
567:: As far as I can see, some articles published in the journal get cited, but there is no coverage of the journal itself. So we have zero independent sources verifying the notability of this journal. Some citations to a journal are to be expected, but don't make it notable in the sense of NJournals (and even less in the sense of GNG). --
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