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420:. I can't see what this individual is notable for. He doesn't appear to be a notable politician, or notable cavalry captain, or notable freemason. What makes him notable? I'll change my opinion if there is a worthwhile reference that explains why he is notable. A claim that he is a famous freemason doesn't quite hit the spot.
595:- I find it difficult to understand what would be gained by this deletion. There are vast waves of crap clogging the in-take valves at New Articles, that's where energy should be targeted, in my opinion. This is a stub about a historical figure. Only one footnote showing, so tag for more. Why delete? I just don't see it...
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Regulator-Moderator War was the largest blood feud in American history and a major event in the history of the Republic of Texas. John J. Kennedy was the sheriff of the county while the war was raging and according to the cited, verified, and reliable
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