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This can be fixed for most entries in this article. For example, a lexis-nexis search on " 'feminazi' AND 'limbaugh' " yielded 120 results in "major papers" and five in "magazines and journals." I am sure that among those is an article that could be cited where relevant information about "feminazi"
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Wikiquote option that we used on Levin, which helped win over those opposed to outright deletion of the list. If implemented on Limbaugh's page, the Rush jargon would survive intact at Wikiquote and you culd easily provide a link to it in
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Simpsons episode reside here--then I don't see how Limbaugh jargon qualifies for deletion. "Unverified through anything other than listening to the show" (quoting CrazyRussian
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page came up with, for dealing with a similar list of Levin jargon that was overwhelming the article, was to move the full list to
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to delete at this time. The comments from anons/new users shouldn't be ignored because they actually make meaningful arguments. And several established contributers also want to keep... so there's clearly no consensus to delete.
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