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71: 323:. By citing an essay and personal opinion on the interest of the material, the nom has not made much of a case for deletion. However, looks to me that the subject would have very broad interest among those researching American culture, political history and etymologies. A number of the terms do seem to be referenced, but better referencing would be welcome. -- 472:, albeit neither matches the main list in the article in question), and "who knows where this stuff came from ?" ones like this. The fate of both articles should be to be reduced to verifiable, and thus shorter, lists. However, we're now at AFD for the Limbaugh list, so the time for eventualism is past. 507:
This can be fixed for most entries in this article. For example, a lexis-nexis search on " 'feminazi' AND 'limbaugh' " yielded 120 results in "major papers" and five in "magazines and journals." I am sure that among those is an article that could be cited where relevant information about "feminazi"
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You nominate it and I'll give you my opinion at the AFD. There's at least a degree of difference between "I picked up a book and copied out what it says" lists, which are verifiable and sourceable by adding the book(s) the material was extracted from as reference(s) (i.e. there are two lists of High
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Yeah, I saw that. Also wanted to chime in and mention the Wikiquote option that we used on Levin, which helped win over those opposed to outright deletion of the list. If implemented on Limbaugh's page, the Rush jargon would survive intact at Wikiquote and you culd easily provide a link to it in
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I am new to wikipedia, but if what I hear is really true--that, for example, lists and descriptions of each and every Simpsons episode reside here--then I don't see how Limbaugh jargon qualifies for deletion. "Unverified through anything other than listening to the show" (quoting CrazyRussian
409:-complete fancruft and at best it's a list of neologism which have no place here anyway. Now if there was a reliable source somewhere that had an article explicitedly about rush Limbaugh's jargon then you would have grounds to keep it. As it stands, it's WP:or cruft. 500:
As for a positive argument for "keep," I endorse what the "absolutely keep" entry said above: "Limbaugh jargon is used to parody and satirize the object of the jargon. It is a distinguishing feature of his program and therefore required for a encyclopedic
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page came up with, for dealing with a similar list of Levin jargon that was overwhelming the article, was to move the full list to Wikiquote and keep a representative sample of 5 items behnd on the master Levin page. Would that not work here as
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as above unless fixed up to reference the sources which JJay refers to for each and every item; Knowledge (XXG) is not a dictionary of quotations and neologisms, verifiability is not optional and there are no eventualists round here.
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to delete at this time. The comments from anons/new users shouldn't be ignored because they actually make meaningful arguments. And several established contributers also want to keep... so there's clearly no consensus to delete.
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For any entry that cannot be found in published articles, it would suffice to reference a date when the term was heard on Limbaugh's show, since audio archives of the show are available.
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I just don't see how the list of Limbaugh jargon is any worse. Maybe the title of the Limbaugh article should be changed to "List of neologisms used on The Rush Limbaugh Show"?
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Yes, there are many items in that list that should be pared. However, the list itself should stay. There are several notable entries with their own articles on it, such as
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might have to be immediately deleted since there are not references for "each and every item". There are plenty of eventualists here. It's a very valid approach. --
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above)  ? Check. "of limited interest to a circumscribed minority"? Check. Simpsons episodes and Limbaugh jargon must plead guilty to both charges.
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Well, to be really precise GFDL doesn't protect facts or sources. So if someone took the time to re-investigate and type into the article
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This is an illegal vote. GFDL requires that history be preserved. If we're merging, we must redirect. If we're deleting we cannot merge. -
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OK guys, I did a little research and I see that there is an article on wikipedia titled "List of neologisms on The Simpsons." It is
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merged back in to the article on El Rushbo - a half dozen terms at most. But this article as currently constituted is ridiculous. -
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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that this is better than independent articles on each neologism. Is that really the alternative?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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very simple information (as opposed to copy/pasting) then it would be GFDL compliant. -
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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There is a history of phrases coined by Limbaugh that enter common use, such as
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the jargon section of the 'pedia article. I suggest voters here check out
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per the Crazy Russian. This is clearly cruft, although I agree with
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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among Knowledge (XXG) contributors. Knowledge (XXG) has
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This is precisely what I suggest in my nomination. -
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
W.marsh
02:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Jargon of The Rush Limbaugh Show
Not a vote
not a majority vote
policies and guidelines
consensus
assume good faith
sign your posts
single-purpose accounts
spa
canvassed
canvassed
sockpuppetry
csm
csp
cruft
first AfD
CrazyRussian
talk
email
02:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Gazpacho
04:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Rush Limbaugh
verified
reliable secondary sources
Kaustuv Chaudhuri

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