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editorializing, etc. In many ways, Limbaugh's manufactured terminology is a defining characteristic of his show, just as such terminology often is with any show. At most, I'd merge it back into the Show article (e.g., South Park's "jargon" schtick is all contained within the show's main article). We have an entire article dedicated to what various abbreviations in World of
Warcraft mean. That's far closer to documenting definitions than this article is, and I think neither needs to be removed per policy.
587:, all of which should have been deleted if policy were what truly mattered. So no, particularly considering the context of all those other noms, I think the nom is pretty clearly not a case of anti-Limbaugh bias. There is no doubt a place for all of the lists (internet, railfan, Limbaugh jargon, etc.) somewhere on the web, just not here. I don't know where you get the idea the Limbaugh list is all cited; aren't there just seven cites on the page?
140:). If somebody disputes the use of a term on the show, it can be verified by pointing to an episode of the show in which the word was used. In particular, if the disputed term was used less than 30 days in the past, it is available on the web via the Rush 24/7 service; older references would require going to an archive, of course. —
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Limbaugh (or are even very familiar with him) . . . my vote was due to the fact that the article seemed like a list of new words coined and that WP is not a dictionary or list of slang, although there are lost of entries that seem to violate that idea. If the words are notable enough and
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rather than engaging in fanlistcruft, they'd try to: (1) establish when the name was first used by him (2) if he invented it, or if it was in prior use by others (3) what the name means (if not original research), (4) document whether the name was used more than once, and if so how often (otherwise
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It needs a lot more context. When
Limbaugh uses these nicknames, how does he use them? Does he say something like "So and so, or as I like to call him, (insert puerile pun here)" or does he say the nickname without ever using the person's real name at all? If the former, or in the cases where the
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so much as schtick. Some of it is manufactured terms, some are portmanteaus and some are just puns, but it's almost all part of
Limbaugh's satire and sense of humor/comedy routine, none of it is about creating new definitions or establishing new jargon. It's about commentary, satire,
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real name is obvious, or context makes the real name obvious, there's really no reason for the list. Also, some of the names seem to indicate faults he finds in the person, but others don't convey any obvious meaning at all. If his fans want to get really
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definitely not notable), (5) whether the use of the name has spread beyond his fans (otherwise hardly notable). If all those conditions could be satisfied, possibly the reasons I cited above for why the page should be deleted would not apply.
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Knowledge (XXG) is not for lists of definitions or lists of quotes. Also possibly could be considered an attack page (and there's no way I can see to make the page NPOV). Possibly original research in definitions given
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As others said, if it merged with another article it would be to one that is already long enough. Given the importance of the show, and the need for someone to already know what he means, this list is
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Everyone who wants the page to stay essentially says the same thing; for those want to retain the page, I wish the WP policies on why pages like this aren't appropriate for WP that had been raised
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I am merely trying to keep a copy of the page available for people who wish to transfer it to
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it introduces or uses neologisms, without attributing the neologism to a reputable source" Here, the neologisms are being attributed to a reputable source (namely,
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loses, the editors of that page will in all likelyhood, recreate the article again if the pattern we saw in 2005 repeats in 2006. The simple analog would be the
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