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like "hiring, promotion, or departure of personnel" notable (except in extremely rare cases) and 100% it's not because every company hires and fires people. Those are already things we don't include and in No way does not having articles on companies full of tables of everyone the company has hired and fired turn Knowledge into the
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This was nominated for deletion back in 2014 due to lacking any refences, which it still doesn't have (in-depth or otherwise) and was keep "because SCHOOLOUTCOMES." SCHOOLOUTCOMES is not a valid keep reason now though. Since it has been over turned per the RfC about it (I think this is a good example
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Er, yes, of course I know what "something" means in this context. I'm afraid I don't understand the rest of your comment. You simply said that the topic of an article has to be unique. I disagreed. If you think that your position can be justified then justify it. Otherwise just stop posting, or (and
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Why do you think the whole "trivial" thing exists then or things like "changes in share or bond prices" or "product or a product line launch, sale, change, or discontinuance" not counting toward notability even though they sometimes get national or regional news coverage? Rarely if ever is something
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I think that's who it is. I semi-agree with that for like a University maybe. I don't think it works if your talking about like a high-school football teams scores being in the local or even regional newspaper. At least where I'm from all high school sports gets that kind of coverage. For something
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in any way like your claiming they do? BTW, just an FYI the guidelines are pretty clear that multiple references from the same outlet only count as one source because they have to be journalistically (and otherwise) independent from each other.
677:"Something" as in the subject/content of the articles. Which would should be obvious since that's literally what we are evaluating. Seriously, we aren't deciding if a company is notable in a vacuum here or based on some sort of osmosis. -- 712:
if you know I've never admitted to making a mistake before. BTW, your the one that responded to my comment to SportsFlyer. So, I think the solution to this back and forth would have been for you to not start it in the first place.
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isn't great but reported sports results is one marker of notability so including it. There are many more results, especially directory listings, discussions with school alumni, and a video with alleged bullying from the school.
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You very clearly said "for something to be notable it has to be unique". They were your words, not mine. It's impossible to hold a civilised discussion about anything when you blatantly deny the obvious evidence.
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The sources provided are little more than mentions. The Mail & Guardian seems to be the best coverage and it actually provides very little coverage of the school. That means the subject currently fails
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Where do the guidelines say anywhere that reporting of sports results is a marker of notability? Also, how do the first and second sources, which are just pictures with a caption, meet
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to be notable it has to be unique and not applicable to every other thing in it's "category." Like were not going to have an article about a school just because it has walls. --
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we need some actual 3rd-party sources to justify an article on a secondary school, not just internal sourcing to an organization itself.
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It is certainly not true that for something to be notable it has to be unique. Such a rule would turn us into the
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I'd love to know how you translated "changes in share or bond prices" to me saying "a company has to be
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Someone - maybe Bearian? - has set out their own standards that schools must pass in order to get past
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is just a listing of schools in the area but it's notable enough to note, and
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I note that the location of this school was wrongly moved a few kilometres in
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Please think before you write. Nothing there says that a company has to be
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of why). So, this should be deleted due to failing both
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this would be a first) admit that you were mistaken.
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All I have to say is that you really must be commit
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