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Iranian forces by water/river rather that bomb -- although at the start occasion of the operation! Hence, it was/is one of Iran-Iraq-War operations which was removed/rejected by specific way of fighting, which is introduced amongst the formal operations of Iran-Iraq-War. Thanks.
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