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this can be sourced from the work itself, & so there is no objection to merging. NOT PLOT is disputed policy, and in there is no agreement that it means anything more than that the total Knowledge coverage of a fiction in general can not be entirely plot. And any article can potentially be improved. there is never a single case in Knowledge where the last sentence of this deletion nomination is applicable. All the other things cited here are
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a discussion on any policy talk page and justify placing a "disputed" tag on the policy, but that doesn't invalidate it. This article is nothing but plot summary, with zero references or real-world context, and the article on the film already has a concise plot summary. Where there is no useful, referenced content, there can be nothing to merge, particularly when what little plot info might be merged is
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The whole "NOT#PLOT is a disputed policy" argument is completely hollow, because every time the policy gets challenged it is overwhelmingly upheld. All the "disputes" over it in the last couple of years have not even resulted in a change in wording, so it clearly has widespread consensus. I can start
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and discuss necessary merge at the proper place. No reason is given why merge is unsatisfactory & almost none of t he arguments given here are even relevant to why there should be a deletion rather than a merge or redirect. I totally agree it is not worth a stand-alone article. But material like
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Current wording is" "A concise plot summary is appropriate as part of the larger coverage of a fictional work." I see the current wording as primarily inclusive: there must be coverage of the plot, and, it must be concise (but that's a relative term).
353:, (pity there's no "list of Godzilla monsters", or is there?). Wow there's a few of these Godzilla AFDs, this article is entirely made up of Original Research, if you "trimmed/improved" all the Original Research you'd have one line left. 219:. It is highly unlikely that sufficient secondary source material exists to support an independent article. None of the content is mergeable elsewhere as it is entirely unreferenced and is just plot summary. -- 422:
to character list and/or main work article as appropriate. Redirecting is preferable in these cases to outright deletion because it directs other editors to add information to the
120: 211:, particularly without secondary sources to show notability. There are no sources here nor any assertion of notability, so it is unlikely that this could pass 308: 203:. Fictional creatures that only appear in 1 work (in this case 1 film, discounting the tie-in video games) do not generally pass the criteria of 169:- there is no call for an article on this creature because it has no significant real-world impact and devoting an article to it would be 258:
in the target. I'm all in favor of merging in cases where there is information worth salvaging, but there is no such content here. --
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This also strikes me as a clear case where a merge would be the appropriate approach rather than a straight deletion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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as there is no independent notability outside the series.
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article and reduces the chances for recreation. --
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
StarM
01:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Orga
Orga
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
notability
Godzilla 2000
real world information
reliable, third party sources
original research
unnecessary plot details
TTN
talk
00:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
undue weight
unsourced
original research
Reyk

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