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notability, some do not. Each needs to be considered on their own. To claim that nomination is targeting the article creator is misrepresenting the nature of deletion discussions and claiming ownership, while in fact
Knowledge (XXG) articles do not have owners. I would like someone to actually tell us what number of articles Lugnuts has created, so that what is actually going in is put in perspective. The number is probably at least 100 times the number of articles created by Lugnuts I have nominated for deletion. As explained over and over again there is an attempt to bring our Olympic articles into line with our Olympic inclusion criteria. This is not aimed at any particular editors work. The most recent Olympic article I nominated for deletion was created by a different editor for example.
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which also lacks any prose on Olsen. It gets better. There were 57 competitors in the 1928 Olympic marathon that completed. Olsen was not one of those. He was one of the 69 people who started that race but one of 12 who did not finish. So realy about all we know about Olsen was he was in a marathon he did not complete. This is not exactly the thing that notability to the level of having an article is made of.
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left there and aren't something that is easily spotted, so that's understandable of course. I am surprised you didn't find the documentary film that he appears in - it's on the second page of my ghits; that might have provided some ideas of where else to look; from that he appears to have been a
Sysselleder (a gauleiter) in 1938.
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no doubt at all that if we were to be able to access Danish print archives that we could find enough bits and pieces about him to satisfy GNG - and I do mean absolutely no doubt at all. So, to preserve the page history, attribution and access to sources and because it's much more efficient to do so, a
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I doubt that this is a published book. There is essentially no publication data, and the translation of the note acto Google/Bing translate is "Danish personalia clippings mainly contain clippings from Danish newspapers". I agree that it shows at least one person found him interesting enough to make
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I'll see what I can do - I've been kinda busy with one thing and another and my Danish and
Swedish - he appears in at least one work by Bosse Schön (which has prose btw) - are basic at best. Obviously I don't have access to Danish newspaper resources which would make life an awful lot easier. That's
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On reflection, this would be better to be redirected. There are clearly some sources in Danish and
Swedish, but the ones that anyone here appears to be able to access are sketchy. And my Danish and Swedish isn't up to bothering to develop the article just to see it deleted anyway. I have absolutely
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Olsen was a non-medaling competitor in the
Olympics. We lack any sourced on Olsen that provide any prose. The sportsreference.com source here has no prose. The only other source I found searching google, google books and google news archive with and without the term "runner" was an Olympedia source
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one day since the article was nominated. It is a little disappointing perhaps that you appear not to have checked the Danish article first. That provides some sourcing and also his full name, which might have been more useful to search using. But those inter-wiki links are tucked away down on the
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Deletion discussions are not "targeting" the creator of an article. They are seeking to remove articles that do not meet inclusion criteria. Of the 12 on people who started but did not finish the 1928 Olympic marathon, 11 were created by
Lugnuts. Some of the others have other points to suggest
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At least on the athletic front, no there is no indication that sources exist on everyone who was in the
Olympics, especially people who did not finish the race they were in. For the other matter, we need people to actually produce actual sources, not just hand wave that sources are hard to
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