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Pulitzer Prize winning author Alice Walker endorsed Lierre Keith's book saying " is one of the most important books people, masses of them, can read, as we try with all our might, intelligence, skill, hope, dream, and memory, to turn the disastrous course the planet is on." (Amazon.com) Alice Walker
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Just curious, how do you define "notability"? As someone said below, "the book currently ranked about #500 on Amazon, making it the bestselling book there in the categories of activism and sustainable agriculture." I'm not even involved in this movement, yet I heard of this book before coming here.
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search strings for "lierre keith" and "the vegetarian myth" get 55k responses, not bad as a raw count (i know its not ipso facto proof of notability). no google scholar to speak of (it is scanned by google). I added a review by michael r eades, a doctor with some notability (protein power, from a
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