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777:, I just wanted to mention this nomination may (or may not, I do not intent to accuse people) be influenced by a recent controversy and some YouTube & Reddit drama involving the subject's behaviour (The gist of this drama is that he made huge blunders in a video about a startup's prototype and then bashed the startup and refused to fix the errors, auctioned off the prototype without permission, has a history of making basic mistakes in his videos, and recently a former employee has alleged mistreatment at this guy's company). So I would suggest that some admins and more experienced editors be on the look-out for randos commenting here without any other contribs. 874:. Are you kidding me? Linus Sebastian is severely notable as a person, he's been talked about in mainstream publications including the New York Times and The Verge, and this article has existed for years. This AfD is in my opinion a joke. Doesn't help that it was made after the Gamers Nexus controversy as well, making me think that there is some sort of ulterior motive behind this AfD, to let out some internal anger re: said controversy. I'm voting Keep purely because this AfD comes off as nothing but a joke as well as Linus just being severely notable as an individual. - 71: 757:
There's also other sources, such as an Inc. Magazine article. If anything, this wiki article just needs to be expanded/TLC. I can find references to Linus in BBC, The Verge, Arstechnica, CNN and a few other news websites (prior to 2023). Seems to meed NBIO to me. I think a cleanup template message is
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more appropriate (too many primary sources, expansion, etc) is more appropriate. If the primary host and creator of the multiple Linus Media Group channels isn't notable enough, then I feel like it sets a precedent for more AfDs for other notable content creators across Knowledge (XXG).
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The original nomination was over 7 years ago, and Linus' notoriety has certainly only increased since then. Yes - the sourcing lends itself to not being the highest quality article, but not at all warrants an AfD nomination, and can likely and rather easily be fixed such as
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All things considered this seems to be a rather major and well established youtube channel host. I do however feel that the article needs to be cleaned up with additional focus on his channel ("Linus Tech Tips"). Articles such as
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mentioned above. In reality, this AfD is quite possibly retaliatory in nature due to recent controversies. If there were a way to nominate an AfD for deletion - this nomination would be a prime candidate.
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I think the more appropriate question is what does the rest of what was posted after the keep itself has to do with the article in question. Both the responses by Siroxo and ElijahPepe were applicable.
603:. Shifting that focus over to the article centered around him would be a mistake, extend well beyond the scope of the individual, and would take away from the LMG article. I would urge against this. 423: 816: 612: 78: 513: 391: 291: 536: 540: 328: 193: 544: 532: 56:, but nominating at the midst of the recent controversy—which is a bad look for him—is not a great look for Knowledge (XXG) (i.e. might comes across as retaliatory). 743:
Only two sources that mention Sebastian specifically are a NYT and a Kotaku article. Most other sources are primary, which does not suggest independent notability.
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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may serve as good comparisons for the scope of articles that cover large-but-not-massive youtubers.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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among other sources editors already pointed above. I hope this gets closed as a Snow Keep.
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I suggest you familiarize yourself with Knowledge (XXG)'s policies, particularly those on
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wikipedia is making a mockery of itself at this point. You wanna have an article for a
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There is extensive focus on his/his company's numerous YT channels and company in
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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Sourcing does not suggest independent notability, especially for an individual.
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C. There are sources for Linus across various internet sources and news sites.
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YouTube is demonetizing videos about coronavirus, and creators are mad
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Article needs improvement but meets WP:BIO AfD is overly extreme.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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D. I think that this has been inflated by recent controversy.
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