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501:, the Academy now compiles and publicly releases shortlists in 9 of the 23 current categories and makes a point of announcing them simultaneously. This means that the shortlist for Best International Feature, which is cited in the comment above, is given no more notable importance than the shortlists for, say, Best Original Song or Best Live Action Short. There is sufficient coverage and commentary each year about which of the shortlisted documentaries, shorts or films in the running for makeup, VFX or music will be the final nominees. This lends modern relevance to the maintenance of these historical lists, should the Academy wish to continue to reinstate and release shortlists for other categories. 526:. International films have a different process in which each country must produce a finalist, which makes that shortlist a different bird. It is unclear when to stop expanding notability if we allow this. This takes us from winners and noms to those shortlisted. I guess you could expand it to those expected to be shortlisted. Maybe even to listing eligible films. Where would it stop? Maybe 441:, in fact, as those are unwieldy and incomplete. The list of Academy Award shortlists, on the other hand, is finite to films under final consideration. Modern shortlists fuel a substantial amount of coverage throughout the awards season (e.g. ). Historical shortlists give a clearer picture of that year in film. 365:
Also want to further contextualize that the shortlists for Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction, Best Costume Design, Best Film Editing, Best Sound, Best Original Score and Best Original Song spanned from 1948 to 1979 and were the next to be added when this was flagged for deletion. I have added
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Shortlists precede nominations, so they make up a kind of pre-qualifying round. From what I can tell, shortlists are reported in news articles with no real commentary since the real contest is among those who become the nominees. There could be instances where a widely-expected film does not get
269:"While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion... routine news reporting of announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia." 336: 203: 594:: Is there opposition to merging this information with the existing pages for these awards categories? The visual effects bake-off, for instance, generates a substantial amount of commentary and coverage. (See: 531: 340: 539: 438: 348: 197: 335:, though I'm sure I'm biased as the creator of the page. Shortlists and eligibility lists are a key component of Academy Awards history, as evidenced by the dozens of pages of 129: 124: 133: 535: 467: 434: 344: 116: 156: 416:
The International Feature Film Oscar is a unique category, with one film being submitted per country. Based on your keep rationale, then you should also be including
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Shortlists should be included at the respective award's article if desired there; there is nothing that suggests groupings of shortlists of different awards.
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when its Oscar nomination was rescinded and reballoted for, using the other shortlisted films as its potential replacement.
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nominated, but these can be reported on individual articles. It does not warrant comprehensive lists like this.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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were shortlisted, but ultimately not nominated that year. The Beatles song "
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List of submissions for the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature
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Definitely not. I would advocate for the removal of the pages for
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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submissions for the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature
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submissions for the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature
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submissions for the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature
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submissions for the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature
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to show how much historical interest there may be where
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lists of submissions for Best International Feature Film
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