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399:: (I hope I'm formatting this correctly) I suppose what you are saying makes sense. I added the entry for emoji because I thought that the article was for a list for words mistaken for gairaigo in general, as opposed to ones being commonly mistaken specifically by Japanese people. The reference was taken from other Knowledge (XXG) articles referencing the fact that the two aren't related, and was meant to demonstrate that the statement was true, which at the time of editing I thought was sufficient for this article. Perhaps it was bad practice on my part. I do not feel confident enough in my understanding of Knowledge (XXG)'s policy to form an opinion on whether or not this article should be deleted, though I think you do have a good case. I'm just writing this in case my (flawed) thought process behind the edit becomes useful for further discussion. 376:
The latest entry (emoji) is obviously good faith. But it really has no coherent connection to the other entries. I contemplated deleting it, but it is so unclear what the topic is supposed to be that it seems unfair to privilege the other entries above it. I can't see quite what the reference says,
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I would guess that anything up to 10% of the entire vocabulary of Japanese (or any other language!) would have faintly plausible mistaken guesses as to its meaning. I suggest that trying to collect a comprehensive list is therefore not encyclopedic.
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The topic of this article is incoherent: by whom is the mistake supposed to be made? It is almost completely unreferenced; fails notability, because there is no evidence of a literature on the topic of this ragbag of mistakes.
132: 127: 136: 325:: This in itself is perhaps notable, because yes, it is a famous bogus etymology. I can't believe that any native Japanese speaker would imagine this to be a loan word -- it is not written in katakana. 200: 119: 159: 166: 255: 295: 275: 91: 221: 106: 188: 430:. I'm not aware of any treatment of this topic outside Knowledge (XXG), and I couldn't find any literature on the topic in EBSCO or Google Scholar. 511: 494: 477: 460: 439: 408: 390: 307: 287: 267: 247: 61: 182: 178: 123: 86: 79: 17: 228: 115: 67: 100: 96: 194: 448: 528: 468:. I can't think of a way this article could be substantiated with reliable sources, with rigid criteria for inclusion. 40: 427: 349:: This is a recent import into English. No native speaker would imagine it was a loan into Japanese (of course 386: 263: 243: 524: 36: 331:: This is probably a general phenomenon that there are very similar words across almost all languages. 456: 404: 303: 283: 214: 447:
per Cnilep. Without proper sourcing, it would appear that the bulk of this list is the result of
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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but it appears just to mention that this is unrelated to "emoticon". True, but not notable.
57: 423: 419: 452: 400: 371: 299: 279: 486: 365:: Yes, many Japanese speakers might not know its origin; it's written in katakana. 153: 503: 469: 431: 53: 337:: This might indeed be thought by native speakers to be a loan word, but isn't. 422:(possibly via synthesis). I also don't see any case for notability under 519:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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10 years old, and has collected seven entries in the list:
149: 145: 141: 213: 227: 502:- as the nominator says, who is the mistake made? 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 531:). No further edits should be made to this page. 294:Note: This discussion has been included in the 274:Note: This discussion has been included in the 254:Note: This discussion has been included in the 256:list of Language-related deletion discussions 8: 343:: Nobody seems to know where this came from. 116:List of Japanese terms mistaken for gairaigo 107:Help, my article got nominated for deletion! 68:List of Japanese terms mistaken for gairaigo 296:list of Japan-related deletion discussions 293: 276:list of Lists-related deletion discussions 273: 253: 359:: A very strained story... unreferenced. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 92:Introduction to deletion process 512:06:22, 26 September 2019 (UTC) 495:22:33, 25 September 2019 (UTC) 478:06:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC) 461:01:14, 25 September 2019 (UTC) 440:00:37, 25 September 2019 (UTC) 409:19:07, 24 September 2019 (UTC) 391:18:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC) 353:came from Chinese originally). 308:17:56, 24 September 2019 (UTC) 288:17:56, 24 September 2019 (UTC) 268:17:51, 24 September 2019 (UTC) 248:17:51, 24 September 2019 (UTC) 1: 82:(AfD)? Read these primers! 62:19:16, 1 October 2019 (UTC) 548: 521:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 317:: This article is : --> 80:Articles for deletion 315:Followup by proposer 449:WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH 420:original research 310: 290: 270: 97:Guide to deletion 87:How to contribute 539: 428:WP:WORDISSUBJECT 375: 232: 231: 217: 169: 157: 139: 77: 34: 547: 546: 542: 541: 540: 538: 537: 536: 535: 529:deletion review 369: 174: 165: 130: 114: 111: 74: 71: 48:The result was 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 545: 543: 534: 533: 515: 514: 497: 480: 463: 442: 412: 411: 367: 366: 360: 354: 344: 338: 332: 326: 312: 311: 291: 271: 235: 234: 171: 110: 109: 104: 94: 89: 72: 70: 65: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 544: 532: 530: 526: 522: 517: 516: 513: 509: 505: 501: 498: 496: 492: 488: 484: 481: 479: 475: 471: 467: 464: 462: 458: 454: 450: 446: 443: 441: 437: 433: 429: 425: 421: 417: 414: 413: 410: 406: 402: 398: 395: 394: 393: 392: 388: 384: 383:Imaginatorium 378: 373: 364: 361: 358: 355: 352: 348: 345: 342: 339: 336: 333: 330: 327: 324: 321: 320: 319: 316: 309: 305: 301: 297: 292: 289: 285: 281: 277: 272: 269: 265: 261: 260:Imaginatorium 257: 252: 251: 250: 249: 245: 241: 240:Imaginatorium 230: 226: 223: 220: 216: 212: 208: 205: 202: 199: 196: 193: 190: 187: 184: 180: 177: 176:Find sources: 172: 168: 164: 161: 155: 151: 147: 143: 138: 134: 129: 125: 121: 117: 113: 112: 108: 105: 102: 98: 95: 93: 90: 88: 85: 84: 83: 81: 76: 69: 66: 64: 63: 59: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 520: 518: 499: 482: 465: 444: 415: 396: 379: 368: 362: 356: 350: 346: 340: 334: 328: 322: 314: 313: 236: 224: 218: 210: 203: 197: 191: 185: 175: 162: 73: 49: 47: 31: 28: 485:per nom. -- 201:free images 525:talk page 453:Rorshacma 401:T.c.w7468 372:T.c.w7468 300:Shellwood 280:Shellwood 37:talk page 527:or in a 323:arigatou 160:View log 101:glossary 39:or in a 487:SalmanZ 397:Comment 207:WP refs 195:scholar 133:protect 128:history 78:New to 504:Vorbee 500:Delete 483:Delete 470:Nardog 466:Delete 445:Delete 432:Cnilep 424:WP:GNG 416:Delete 335:chakku 179:Google 137:delete 54:RL0919 50:delete 357:garou 347:emoji 341:chari 222:JSTOR 183:books 167:Stats 154:views 146:watch 142:links 16:< 508:talk 491:talk 474:talk 457:talk 436:talk 426:nor 405:talk 387:talk 363:neta 351:moji 329:baba 304:talk 284:talk 264:talk 244:talk 215:FENS 189:news 150:logs 124:talk 120:edit 58:talk 451:. 418:as 229:TWL 158:– ( 510:) 493:) 476:) 459:) 438:) 407:) 389:) 306:) 298:. 286:) 278:. 266:) 258:. 246:) 209:) 152:| 148:| 144:| 140:| 135:| 131:| 126:| 122:| 60:) 52:. 506:( 489:( 472:( 455:( 434:( 403:( 385:( 374:: 370:@ 302:( 282:( 262:( 242:( 233:) 225:· 219:· 211:· 204:· 198:· 192:· 186:· 181:( 173:( 170:) 163:· 156:) 118:( 103:) 99:( 56:(

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