385:- I'd say delete based on the current page, but is there any commonality in the current entries on the page that could be used as the selection criteria? Maybe one or more pages such as "public figures," "contestants who won over $ X00k," or "contestants with an X-game winning streak?" The current page seems to be a mixture of random trivia, so it definitely needs to be changed regardless of the outcome.
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tournaments, reached some sort of placement toward a superlative, or otherwise distinguished themselves, so the list needs to be reworked to have better inclusion criteria. Jerry
Frankel and Eric Newhouse, for example, seem to have been relatively routine winners and don't fit in here, and Richard Cordray is notable for things outside Jeopardy.
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contestants get—and how inconsistent that coverage can be—but it is a firm criteria, and a preferable alternative to destruction of the page (which would in turn break a whole lot of links and redirects to contestants who do not have full articles of their own yet and thus cause massive disruption).
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This is not a bad-faith nomination and it's poor form to accuse that. This article is in poor state and should not be just a bunch of mini-biographies of otherwise non-notable players. I think the concept of this list is welcome, but many, many players have performed excellently in regular play and
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article should be deleted or kept. I'm responding that the current champion is not relevant to this discussion, and then you say I'm bringing up irrelevancies. This is not the purpose of an AFD, nor is it relevant to this AFD subject, which is the List of
Jeopardy! contestants article. Please stay
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I think there is sourced info for this type of list as their appearances would be discussed, even if not to the extent that GNG would support standalone articles. Whether it should be limited to a certain number of appearances, dollars won or other issues to make it more navigable can be solved
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He's now tied for 6th place for consecutive wins, and is in 5th place for regular (non-tournament) game show winnings; and is only a couple hundred dollars behind 4th place, so with consolation prizes he'll move into 4th on Monday even if he loses (unless consolation prizes don't count).
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