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355:: Bean-to-bar manufacturers is not the same as chocolate bar brands. "A bean-to-bar company produces chocolate by processing cocoa beans into a product in-house, rather than merely melting chocolate from another manufacturer. Some are large companies that own the entire process for economic reasons; others are small- or micro-batch producers and aim to control the whole process to improve quality, working conditions, or environmental impact." Not all large companies do that. There was a discussion about Kit Kat that reached a consensus that no variants were to be listed based on at least 300 in Japan alone that are seasonal, limited edition, and regional. 408:, kind of strange to nominate a page like this which was created all the way back in 2008. It has 20K pageviews over the last 30 days, so useful information to lots of people. Flavour variants were added over the years but with the older list there was no clear distinction between the bar brand and flavour variants. The way it is set up now makes sure there is this clear distinction. Also, it is lots of work to source 700 entries, but over the years new sources are added. 463:, you're making excuses to not make any improvements. Knowledge (XXG), as you know, is a collaborative effort and many, many lists are dynamic lists and will never satisfy particular standards for completeness. That's why you and others need to help out with editing and adding references. Yes, it's big undertaking, but as long as we chip away at it, it can slowly be done. 235:
This list has currently over 700 entries (and it looks like it is growing fast) and the vast majority of the items added are not adequatley sourced. Most of these entries are clearly non-notable chocolate bars (most often variants of either notable or even non-notable chocolate bars) and don't have
306:- It is quite clear that there is a consensus to keep this list on Knowledge (XXG). And despite some issues, things seem to go in the right direction. Given that this nomination has generated some discussion (including from myself), I think I will leave the closure to another editor. 204: 321:
A chocolate manufacturer is not the same as a chocolate bar. The list absolutely needs all of the individual flavors and varieties trimmed, but a list of chocolate bars seems like a perfectly notable topic as a subarticle of
522:, discussions for inclusion criteria have been held. The current criteria that is being discussed is the minimum percentage of chocolate needed in a bar to qualify as a chocolate bar (milk, white, and dark chocolate). 624:
Some of the material might be recycled and put where it is appropriate (like manufacturer articles), if *adequately* cited. So, you did not necessarily waste your time. But you need to take time to better understand
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So, I propose, at the very least, to trim the list to remove non-notable items (typically variants or any unsourced/red link entry). They just don't belong to Knowledge (XXG). Please note that there is also a
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Not okay with it, keep going on with your nomination, nominating this list is stupid anyway. Not putting in so many hours on something in Knowledge (XXG) ever again. Have a nice day.
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processes are required, but AfD does not really have the competence to act on this matter as it is out of scope. The closest equivalent would probably be an RfC.
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This list is usefull & interesting, all the flavours & variates should be cut out but the brands should stay.
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The main problem is that 2/3 of the list is completely unverifiable (no citation, no link). This list fails
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the page being tagged. This list is only getting worse with time. How do you expect any improvement?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Even worse, out of the 82 sources used for this list, about half of them are blogs (like
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The contentious material has been boldly removed. If the main contributors to the list (
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But you and Mr. C.C. still added plenty of items without any source (
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