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428:- (from the aforementioned and Kept AFD) not meaning a WP:OTHERSTUFF argument ... but ...your saying that keyboardists are less notable than guitarists & drummers. I dont understand how from your Nom. Statement. It takes all of them to make the music. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 06:53, 7 March 2009 (UTC) ... As I said then is still true, what in your Nom Rational is the grounds for deletion? 514: 410:
per DGG. Any issue with individual items on the list is an issue for editing, not deleting the entire list. The list may also need to be split up into individual lists by genre or time period; this does not mean it should be deleted. Lack of completeness is not grounds to delete the list; we even
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As a general rule, every category should support a list also if people are willing to make them. Some people actually prefer categories, and they do have their uses, but that is no reason to remove navigational devicesthat other people find useful. As this list gives the name of the groups, it
335:(to pick two random guitarists whose names start with K). This list can never be complete and because of the lack of entry criteria will be stuffed with entries like Miley Cyrus or any other minor celeb who is photographed holding a guitar. A category serves the same very limited purpose. 356:
You doubt the notability of Miley Cyrus as a guitarist? Even Jimi Hendrix cited her as a big inspiration and wrote "Foxy Lady" especially about her. Not to mention legions of female guitarists like Jennifer Batten, Wendy Melvoin, Steve Vai and Prince who followed her pioneering work.
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have a template that explains that the list in question cannot hope to be complete... such a template would be unnecessary if the situation is was intended for were grounds to delete the list.
522: 168: 189:- It serves its purpose as a quick access point for, err people interested in guitarists. It is useful, well moderated and has a place in WP. Whereas spurious list haters who use 76: 160: 152: 501:. Nor are there an infinite amount of notable guitarists, so this list is not "infinitely expandable". If it gets too big it can be split by genre and/or time period per 193:
as a self-perpetuating argument does not. What happens after decimating all the List of... pages, a full onslaught of the lists of categories?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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the category is more than enough for this infinitely expandable list. See also
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as a list is more than a category could ever be and even can evolve into a
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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resulted in a near-unanimous keep, and the nominator has
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provides more information than a category ever could.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
WP:SNOW
MBisanz
09:43, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
List of guitarists
Articles for deletion/List of guitarists
Articles for deletion/List of guitarists (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/List of guitarists considered the greatest
Articles for deletion/List of guitarists considered the greatest (2nd nomination)
List of guitarists
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
the AFD
List of Vocalists
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/List of keyboardists
Benefix
talk
18:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
WP:OTHERSTUFF
WebHamster

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