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480:, and you know very well this is not the first time. We all have better things to do in Knowledge (XXG), I'm sure, than wasting time with this sort of childish tantrums! This AfD proposal has been made in entirely good faith: A list with only one item in it is by definition not a list; it's a travesty of the very concept. But if every time someone who proposes to delete an article that's for some reason dear to your heart you begin to behave boorishly ("you're having a brain freeze", and other such stupidities), then dialogue and collaboration collapse. You are advised to 56:) This AfD proposal was submitted on the basis of the contested list having only one item in it. Since the time the proposal was submitted, editors have added more items on the list. Whether or not the items legitimately appear on the list is a subject that would be discussed, if at all, on the article's talk page and, of course, not here. In any case, the basis for the AfD proposal exists no more. Therefore, the proposal is withdrawn. 458:
went back to a previous version and restored 5 items that had been stripped out, so now it is a list of six again. I don't have access to the corresponding five deleted articles, to add references conveniently. I guess I could/should request restoration of the five separate articles to get material to merge back here. --
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Wrong on both counts. Firstly, I had no part in previous listings. In the most recent AfD, which was the first time I got involved with this subject, I witnessed the items in the list getting deleted one by one. Before the list dwindled down to two items, the AfD was closed. The closing was premature
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What has gone on seems obnoxious to me. It seems that five separate articles have been deleted outright, without moving any details over to this list-article, so there were then just redlinks which have then been stripped out. List items do not have to have to link to articles to exist. Anyhow, I
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Normally it would be appalling behavior to renominate so soon, but in this case it seems completely justified as this manifestly is not a list anymore. If the community decided we shouldn’t have all but one of the items that were previously on the list, it follows that the list shouldn’t exist
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thing. And Canada doesn't really have any significant number of housing cooperatives that are actually notable or sourceable enough to warrant encyclopedia articles, so there's no prospect of it getting reexpanded back to a useful or list-justifying number of entries either.
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It is not OK to keep listing articles on AfD until you get the result you want, as is being done here. This article should be kept to discourage that sort of behaviour. Also, I think there is the potential for other notable co-ops to be found (given time).
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The list might eventually stay on, or be deleted; nobody knows. And I do not much care either way. What matters the most is the obnoxious
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as having any notability at all — so any disagreement about whether six, five, four or three articles were
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about wanting to discourage the behavior. Maybe "List of" should be dropped from the title, by a move to
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in my humble opinion but that was what was decided. I submitted this AfD for the only reason that
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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thing was imminent. And now it's happened exactly as I pointed out: this
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Kindly retire this nonsense about "discouraging the behavior," both you
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and therefore cannot, by any reasonable measure, be considered a list.
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to justify a list was irrelevant, because its reduction to a list of
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The article, as it now stands, is not the same article any more
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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List of housing cooperatives in Canada
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Articles for deletion/List of housing cooperatives in Canada (3rd nomination)
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