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It's a very common term in international relations. Great power and superpower are in no way the same thing; they're generally tied to unipolar/bipolar/multipolar systems. For example, in WW1 you had a bunch of great powers fighting. Cold war, two superpowers (three, counting GB before the Suez
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I am also nominating the following related pages because it suffers from the same problem. A bare list of states that some modern scholar has labelled a "great power" is possible, but seems useless to me. Unlike the medieval page, this one
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I suppose the page could be rescued, but it would be much reduced. Also, unlike the modern great powers, there is no consensus concerning what were "great powers" in the Middle Ages.
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