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located in a hutong just north of Bei Hai Park, the hotel has been on the backpacker trail for some time and can be busy. But with four courtyards, a bamboo grove and a grape garden, there's more than enough space for a spot of solitude. The best suites open onto a tiny courtyard at the back where you can sit and sip tea, listen to the birds and contemplate the hotel's 170 years of history. Or you can hop in a rickshaw and go for a spin around the hutongs, many of which haven't changed since their Kublai Khan days. Rooms range from US$ 10 dormatories to $ 100 suites with private courtyards"
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has been a stopover for senior government officials, diplomats and, lately, overseas tourists. ... The occupancy rate at the hotel hit a low this month - even lower than the July after the bloodshed in
Tiananmen Square in 1989. ... The hotel, now owned by Hong Kong businessman Peter Wong Man-kong as part of Culture Resources Development, has modernised its bathrooms, added broadband internet access and Wi-fi, established a 24-hour multilingual service hotline, and reprinted their service guide to cover the Olympic Games and sports venues."
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traditional courtyards. It includes an outdoor lounge, bamboo gardens and a grape garden. Many of the rooms open onto one of the courtyards. The hotel has 59 guest rooms, which are tastefully furnished with replicas of Ming dynasty furniture. There is a business center, which provides an
English speaking secretarial service, copying, fax, internet access, as well as ticketing and foreign currency exchange. "
835:), and for your interest in patching the sources in to build article content from them! I participate in many AfDs so don't always have time to add the sources to the article since searching for sources is time-consuming. (I've adjusted the indentation of your comment so that it's nested under my comment.)
801:), thanks for this research and the ping! As this is one of the first AfDs I've participated in, and I'm doing so in part so I can observe discussions and learn more about evaluating RSes, I am probably not a good person to judge these, so I will eagerly await input from our other peers you've tagged.
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Yuanmingyuan”. ... The Lu Song Yuan hotel is built around four charming
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That being said, these *look* like decently significant coverage to my "newbie" eyes, and particularly your find about the Qing general! Looking forward to see what others think, if they concur with your assessment I'd love to help you in patching these sources in to build article content from them.
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The article notes: "After several delays, China’s first internationally affiliated youth hostel is due to open this month. Although it’s expected to be a little more expensive than some of the budget hotels favored by backpackers in
Beijing, it will be a good place to meet fellow travelers and share
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Management Company, and reopened as a Culture Hotel in 1998 after extensive renovation. The hotel spreads over five courtyards; the main one, where you can sit for a drink, opens off the restaurant."
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