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Hello, I've just signed on only for the sake of commenting on this, so please forgive me if I don't format this correctly (and kindly advise me). I was surprised to see that this entry is being considered for deletion. Bouazizi's name came up twice in this BBC article so my first move was to look
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Mohamed Bouazizi has played a significant role in the downfall of a "major political leader", arguably a more significant role than Neda Agha-Soltan did in her event which did not have the same consequences. "Arabs everywhere identified with Mohamed Bouazizi" and he is described as "a
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Tunisia would be a subjective minimization of his role in the current revolution. By this standard, the Knowledge (XXG) article on another self-immolating protester, Vietnam's Thích
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Bouazizi as the catalyst for the fall of a long-standing dictator has much greater significance than a guy who shot a provincial official in Pakistan.
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You must be kidding. If there was such a thing as speedy deletion of requests for deletion, I think it would apply here. This will become an important article about an individual who made history.
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