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170:. I feel that this article does have information that deserves its own article and not just brief mention. For example the nature of demons and their summoning is a major idea the understanding of which underlies the entire trilogy and without which the other articles would make no sense. While this information could be included in other articles they would soon become unwieldy because much of it 324:. This article is in need of a cleanup, which is not cause for deletion. Citations ought to be added, and some in-universe sections rewritten or removed. If, once this process is complete, the article is too small to stand by itself I would, like Beligaronia above, support a merge to the relevant section of the main series article. -- 450:
major topic in major work. worth an article all the sources on the books will deal with it as 3rd party sources. No OR, no speculation. Only quetion is whethr to combine with the main article,but i think there's enoguh to develop separately.
212:. As Beligaronia said, much of the information in this article is important in understanding the series. Of course, if it can be cleaned up (proper citations, and removing some un-needed information), it will be even better. — 374:. This article refactors some things from a specific book series and combines it, probably, with some original research and its written in an INUNIVERSE point of view and, IMO, there is hope to change this view 120: 397:
As far as I can tell, (almost) all of the content of this article can be confirmed directly with the books, and very little of it is original research or speculation. Compare to
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vital and would need to be kept. Therefore if it is deleted (which it shouldn't be) the more relevant details need to be
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The article is also completely without reliable secondary sources and, I suspect, unsourceable. That
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
401:: the only sources are the author and the books, and no more are really needed. This article 151:. It is just an unnecessary collection of terms that only need to be covered when necessary. 179: 148: 136: 257: 144: 140: 433: 357: 301: 379: 290: 286: 253: 249: 128: 458: 269: 196: 156: 50: 108: 405:
written in an in-universe style, but this can be fixed without deleting it. —
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because of the subject discussed. It doesn't show any real world
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
248:. Wow, this is a fictional material. Knowledge (XXG) works on 264:. For this moment, I'd say delete, or at best redirect to 115: 104: 100: 96: 127:This list of minor terminology does not establish 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 480:). No further edits should be made to this page. 427:list of Literature-related deletion discussions 8: 260:. It does have problems listed clearly in 425:: This debate has been included in the 231:As useful and encyclopedic information. 143:. Most of the information is made up of 195:per nom which pretty much says it all. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 178:with Bartmaeus Trilogy article.-- 71:Magic in the Bartimaeus Trilogy 63:Magic in the Bartimaeus Trilogy 1: 463:08:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC) 442:05:58, 16 November 2008 (UTC) 417:18:47, 15 November 2008 (UTC) 392:08:22, 15 November 2008 (UTC) 365:23:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 341:23:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 309:19:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 278:08:22, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 241:08:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 224:07:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 205:06:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 188:03:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 161:01:05, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 141:reliable, third party sources 57:04:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC) 322:Bartimaeus Trilogy#Universe 497: 135:through the inclusion of 473:Please do not modify it. 149:unnecessary plot details 32:Please do not modify it. 349:a reason for deletion. 166:This article should be 137:real world information 399:Magic in Harry Potter 131:independent of the 266:Bartimaeus Trilogy 133:Bartimaeus Trilogy 44:The result was 444: 430: 408:Insanity Incarnat 339: 215:Insanity Incarnat 145:original research 488: 475: 431: 421: 414: 409: 355: 337: 328: 325: 299: 258:reliable sources 221: 216: 118: 112: 94: 53: 34: 496: 495: 491: 490: 489: 487: 486: 485: 484: 478:deletion review 471: 412: 407: 361: 351: 335: 326: 305: 295: 233:ChildofMidnight 219: 214: 114: 85: 69: 66: 51: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 494: 492: 483: 482: 466: 465: 445: 419: 376: 375: 369: 368: 367: 359: 311: 303: 280: 243: 226: 207: 190: 125: 124: 65: 60: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 493: 481: 479: 474: 468: 467: 464: 460: 456: 455: 449: 446: 443: 439: 435: 428: 424: 420: 418: 415: 410: 404: 400: 396: 395: 394: 393: 389: 385: 381: 373: 370: 366: 363: 362: 356: 354: 348: 344: 343: 342: 338: 333: 332: 323: 319: 315: 312: 310: 307: 306: 300: 298: 292: 288: 287:verifiability 284: 281: 279: 275: 271: 267: 263: 262:WP:INUNIVERSE 259: 255: 251: 250:verifiability 247: 244: 242: 238: 234: 230: 227: 225: 222: 217: 211: 208: 206: 202: 198: 194: 191: 189: 185: 181: 177: 173: 169: 165: 164: 163: 162: 158: 154: 150: 146: 142: 138: 134: 130: 122: 117: 110: 106: 102: 98: 93: 89: 84: 80: 76: 72: 68: 67: 64: 61: 59: 58: 55: 54: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 472: 469: 452: 447: 422: 402: 384:Magioladitis 377: 371: 358: 352: 346: 330: 317: 313: 302: 296: 282: 245: 228: 209: 192: 175: 171: 167: 126: 49: 46:no consensus 45: 43: 31: 28: 382:as well. -- 336:TROMBONATOR 180:Beligaronia 380:notability 291:notability 254:notability 129:notability 434:Raven1977 331:DARK LORD 270:Dekisugi 197:Eusebeus 121:View log 88:protect 83:history 52:MBisanz 372:Delete 283:Delete 246:Delete 193:Delete 176:merged 116:delete 92:delete 320:with 318:Merge 256:from 139:from 119:) – ( 109:views 101:watch 97:links 16:< 459:talk 448:Keep 438:talk 423:Note 388:talk 353:Reyk 314:Keep 297:Reyk 289:and 274:talk 237:talk 229:Keep 210:Keep 201:talk 184:talk 168:kept 157:talk 147:and 105:logs 79:talk 75:edit 454:DGG 432:-- 429:. 360:YO! 327:THE 316:or 304:YO! 153:TTN 461:) 440:) 403:is 390:) 347:is 293:. 276:) 268:. 239:) 203:) 186:) 172:is 159:) 107:| 103:| 99:| 95:| 90:| 86:| 81:| 77:| 48:. 457:( 436:( 413:e 386:( 272:( 235:( 220:e 199:( 182:( 155:( 123:) 113:( 111:) 73:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
MBisanz
04:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Magic in the Bartimaeus Trilogy
Magic in the Bartimaeus Trilogy
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
notability
Bartimaeus Trilogy
real world information
reliable, third party sources
original research
unnecessary plot details
TTN
talk
01:05, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Beligaronia
talk
03:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Eusebeus

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