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453:'s reliance on albums-with-a-major-label remains up-to-date; I'm not sure. Maybe it is. I wouldn't say that "number of fans is irrelevant", though. What if they had more fans than the Beatles but just chose not to record albums but instead put put videos and sell individual songs through downloads? I dunno. On the other hand their dead-tree media coverage seems nonexistent (although they do have some amount of online-zine coverage, which may not mean much). So they are pretty borderline in that sense. I mean, you have a point. My gut feeling is that they're probably notable enough to have an article, but it's hard to prove. 467:
What's the point of having a guideline if you don't follow it. If we were more dismissive with the guideline, we might as well let every Tom, Dick, and Harry get an article. I'm sorry, when it comes to notability, the aforementioned factors are irrelevant. They do not deserve an exception. It takes a
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marker of two albums on a major or important indie label. On the other hand, they sell their songs directly through amazon.com and itunes so they probably don't feel the need to have a label and an album. If it was 1982 they probably would have been signed by RCA Records or whomever by now. And they
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doesn't require a given sales level of 8-track tapes or 78 RPM records for an act to be notable, so maybe it's sufficiently up to date. Anyway, it appears that this duo has a lot of the markers that we generally associate with notable
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per above. Also: all albums are self-produced and distributed by their own label. Majority of article is promotional, and majority of references are first-person (twitter, tumblr, etc.) --
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I don't agree that all this is irrelevant. It's information. Whether it's useful information or not I can't say. But let's not say it's not information. It is. Regarding
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The have millions of fans, or hundreds of thousands of fans, or some large number of fans, however this is manifested and however difficult it is to count them.
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They are part of the music "scene" generally with bluelinked acts, hang out with them, appear on stage with them and in their songs and videos and so forth.
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is accurate anymore or needs to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. I don't know if that was ever decided. I do know that
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It's cool "they probably don't feel the need to have a label and an album". That's part of the criteria to be in this encyclopedia.
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per nom. I'm not even going to try and search for mentions on Yahoo! or Google because if they're YouTube artists: -->
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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As well with common names like Megan and Liz, the chances of notable sources being found is second to none.
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And they seem to be sticking around, having been at this for about four years now. It's true that they
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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only non-trivial source is local news coverage, everything else is YouTube, Facebook, etc.
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lot to get around this guideline. And to respond to the fans thing, your getting into
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may apply". Does an exception apply here? Maybe. I've raised the question whether
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They have had a regional tour in the United States. (This was once one of the
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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have millions of YouTube hits. Whether that matters I don't know. Maybe.
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They have appeared on Oprah (albeit briefly and not as featured guests).
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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It's not a matter of opinion. Which part of it does it pass?--
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How long they have been in the music industry is irrelevant
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talk page and so forth, the question being whether or not
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Opening for a notable artist doesn't make them notable.
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