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262:. While I agree with the notion - presented in the earlier AfDs - that a musical act does not necessarily have to be signed to a major label and/or reach the charts in order to be notable, I'm not particularly persuaded by social media prominence (i.e. "fan following") alone being an exception to our guidelines. If there is substantial interest in a subject, then 515:
This article was up for deletion as recently as July, to bring it up for possible deletion ones again so soon, and also after no consensus for 4 nominationa is disrespecting the Knowledge (XXG) in my opinion. Wikipedians need to get a clue about Youtube and the phenomenas and the fact that people can
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or whatever. It's an important point. There are other notability markers for this entity, so I'm not voting one way or the other. But YouTube Generation or no YouTube Generation, music magazines stay in business by covering popular artists. The lack of notable dead-tree coverage is a sticking point.
533:. I agree with Herostratus here. You would think that with all the "buzz" that this group supposedly has, there would be more coverage of them by real reporters writing real articles that have to be approved by real editors. However, going back to the 2 sources provided by gongshow, 545:
I'm not sure about, it seems to fall short of "significant coverage" but is more then a trivial mention (but it is Megan and Liz featured in the big honking photo at the top). Another supersource or 2 would really be helpful here.
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territory. And if we delete so soon after prior AfD, its just the vagaries of AfD participation, not anything else. It doesn't harm wikipedia to wait 6 months before re-nominating. No consenus is no
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In one day they get more views than my sweet collection of 19th century Nebraska lieutenant governor articles will get in a year. They were on Oprah, so that's already beyond
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I think probably in that they don't have any articles about them in notable publications. If they're so big, why isn't there even a short article about them in
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get record labels and succeed in music trough that media. They are touring are signed to a record label. good enough for me. (again!).--
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will have written about it. With that in mind, the best cases for significant coverage appear to be the articles in
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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A touring band with a record label and songs for sale through Amazon seems to be notable enough to me.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Per reasons brought up in the previous nominations, most importantly, that it does not pass
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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state of being at AfD. On the merits, I don't have a strong opinion.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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Megan and Liz
Articles for deletion/Megan and Liz
Articles for deletion/Megan and Liz (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Megan and Liz (3rd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Megan and Liz (4th nomination)
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