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what point does notability become prominence? Is one article from Salon as insufficient as six? Are TV, radio, and podcast interviews of him invalidated because they are spoken word interactions as opposed to antiquated written profiles? These strike me as dubious, subjective arguments and standards for an encyclopedia that is expansive enough to have entries on every single
Pokemon character to ever exist. I appreciate your point about the need for independent, reliable sources. That's why I have included the sundry list below. Mr. Schwartz is the preeminent thinker in the emerging field of Quantum Psychology. While the field itself may just be gaining traction, Mr. Schwartz is the go-to individual for media contacts on the matter. Big fish, little sea? Perhaps. But his Knowledge entry absolutely meets the general inclusion threshold as set forth by Knowledge. The subject is notable enough - there is no mention of "prominence," by the way - for at least two people to have written something substantive (more than just a mention) about him that has been published in a reliable source. I encourage you to follow the links below for further evidence. And if you feel the entry is "outrageously promotional," I'd further encourage you to edit it to Knowledge's standards instead of promoting it for deletion, as I do not believe it is worthy of that ignominious consideration. - Yours in Humble Service, Sisyphean Lament
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An outrageously promotional article and likely a COI creation. The article does not contain a single independent source, and a BEFORE search shows that he has been quoted and interviewed in a number of outlets, but does not turn up sufficient biographical coverage to justify an article. Hence
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